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SWTOR Is No Longer Supported By Most Sites

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GalacticKegger
09.27.2012 , 08:15 PM | #31
Quote: Originally Posted by LibertySol View Post
If you honestly think SWTOR didn't fail it's community I really don't know what to say to that.
If true then one would surmise that the community (which includes those who frequent these forums) are just as fail for sticking around. Or is that statement equally as absurd?
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Nigredo
09.28.2012 , 01:02 AM | #32
This has been becoming and will inevitably be a pretty princess simulator. Until each and every player are the internet gods their self-delusions make them out to be, this game will shed subscriptions like a leper sheds skin.
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Karkais
09.28.2012 , 01:23 AM | #33
Quote: Originally Posted by shava View Post
  1. It's too easy to get to level cap
  2. there weren't enough side quests even though they didn't stop to smell the npcs along the way
  3. the story (which they didn't read) sucked
  4. the end game is grindy and too much *and* not enough like WOW

....

I am tired of it. SWTOR did not fail the players. EA and a segment of players failed SWTOR. And that segment of players is failing the industry and will be making it impossible for a AAA game to get VC money within two years, I suspect. It's not a pretty picture in the industry right now.

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Przemo_No
09.28.2012 , 01:47 AM | #34
I cannot agree more. Shava is right.
That's the point.

I participated in "both sides" of the game, trying my first ever PVP experience in life.
I liked it, even with the situations those "Serious PVP Players" - as they call themselves all geared like Titans roll over me thousand times because i cannot stand alone against two or three of them.
They are being proud of it actually

But anyway:

I guess it's just a sign'o'the times. Large groups of kiddos who have all days and months to sit behind a computer and talk about what's good and bad and why this game sucks. (one can ask WHO pays for their subscriptions?)

But SWTOR is a GOOD GAME.

It is just designed for somewhat more matured people.

When I saw the first ever Star Wars movie I was EIGHT. Those days no one literally could even DREAM about being able to LIVE it, live it like now we can in all SW games.

Those who saw movies (or read books, played first games like X-Wing) later, when the SW machine was on full speed, cannot have that perspective.

The only one they have is WOW (or other MMO) related. NOT Star Wars related (environments, worlds, force, all that mystics) but simply plain computer gaming related perspective. The world is not important important is how quick they smash other players and get the newer pixels on their characters.

And perhaps that's a reason they are complaining. They do not care about what the game is about, they care about percentages of healing or DPS instead of seeing what they can explore. What can the LIVE.

I seriously DO NOT care whether the PVP is balanced or not, whether one class is 2,6778% better than another and if i can stealth or not, what i care is whether the story is properly written (believable), SWTOR mostly is (despite few really idiotic situations when you have to fight gargantuan beast that normally no Jedi or Sith would even bother with - because saber skills would never work there. In those occasions some force tricks should be useful - but those are NOT given to us). Well, SWTOR mostly is up to it. The story is VERY GOOD. And the voicing and cinematics, etc.

That's what I want. Nothing more.

Some complain about game engine or low framerate or lagging or whatever performance issue. - I guess they really need to upgrade their machines because I can play this game on either low end or high end laptops.

Seriously I played it on 4 years old HP laptop with low end graphic card. I loose the details, but I COULD PLAY!

Not to say a word about Alienware that simply does not seem to be bothered by SWTOR.


I participate in forums, trying to say something constructive here and there, but since it looks like massive boring flood of "whining and trolling" I guess I saw enough of it.

Now I guess I will simply PLAY THE GAME as usual, and patiently wait for new content.

That's was it.
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Sammm
09.28.2012 , 02:30 AM | #35
I have to agree with most of the things Shava wrote. I witnessed it so many times irl among some friends and acquaintances:

1st. They'll talk about that new mmorpg months prior to its launch and they'll play in every beta phases.
2nd. They'll preorder it asap and stay awake all night before the launching day.
3rd. They'll burn through the mmo without reading the story, without taking the time to look around in the maps, without socializing, without trying the other classes, etc.
4rd. After 2-6 days, they're already at max level. After 1-3 weeks, they're already max geared and guess what? Yep, they are already totally bored.
5rd. They'll start to complain a lot and write many really negative comments about that mmo in forums/chat/websites.
6rd. They'll unsub.

*Repeat steps 1 to 6* until death...

The sad thing is that I used to behave like that. I used to jump from mmorpg to mmorpg. Then, one day, I said to myself: "Stop being that kind of gamer, it's just a pathetic and sad behavior".

This is why SWTOR is my 1st mmo where I really take the time to enjoy the game. No more rush. I'm done with that.

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Alcarinn
09.28.2012 , 08:00 AM | #36
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthEccen View Post
You know what I don't get? The general player community seemed to expect SWTOR to kill WOW right out of the gates. And that seems silly to me. Drawing on all the old arguments from when the first game launched: This is Bioware's first MMO, SWTOR had one of the smoothest MMO launches in the history of....... MMOs. And so far, Bioware has released more content in a year for this game than they have for any of their more critically acclaimed console titles.

And the vast majority of the player community abandoned SWTOR, for various reasons (good and bad), way back in March. And that created a whole slew of problems. The hundred or so extra servers that were quickly released to cope with expanding server populations were suddenly left just about empty, basically killing the economy for hundreds of thousands of players. And ignorant people on the forums cried and blamed Bioware for the problem.

Then when Bioware tried to correct the problem via server merges (fixing population issues and hopefully kickstarting the crafting economy again for everyone) most of the game community had a fit over name changes, as if, like, it really was the end of the world for the SWTOR community.

And this is all on top of releasing four major updates to date (bringing a heavy amount of content for ONE year), tweaking classes continuously (in some cases significantly), and promising more to come before the end of the year. You cannot seriously convince me that SWTOR's biggest problems haven't been caused by the players. If anything, I'd say SWTOR's biggest crisis times have been a direct result OF the players.
WHAT THE HELL!

This is called bad business from BW/EA

They had 0 preparations to launches, they were somehow completely out of the blue expecting that all those serves wil remain high. pop

If they released a better more stable servers with current population caps and make 10 of those all would be very heavy/full first 3 weeks with perhaps 30 min queues and then drop to heavy/very heavy on peaks.

Instead the created single most fail game experience a human being can have in MMOs really

And i love the game and i see how they failed.
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LibertySol
09.28.2012 , 08:20 AM | #37
If you're still enjoying the game go ahead.

Just don't be ignorant and bury your head in the sand when someone criticizes it. Are you telling me updates aren't slow? Are you telling me the hero engine isn't terrible? Are you telling me they don't have tons of bugs? Are you telling me 300 million dollars on a game that is now barely staying profitable is a raving success?

No you aren't your complaining about people who "whine". I don't care about whiners I care about facts.

Lol one person said that you have to be "mature" to enjoy SWTOR and that's why it has problems. Because people aren't "mature" enough. Christ what happened to the gaming community.

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Mithros
09.28.2012 , 08:21 AM | #38
Quote: Originally Posted by Alcarinn View Post
WHAT THE HELL!

This is called bad business from BW/EA

They had 0 preparations to launches, they were somehow completely out of the blue expecting that all those serves wil remain high. pop

If they released a better more stable servers with current population caps and make 10 of those all would be very heavy/full first 3 weeks with perhaps 30 min queues and then drop to heavy/very heavy on peaks.

Instead the created single most fail game experience a human being can have in MMOs really

And i love the game and i see how they failed.
You say that this is the 'single most fail game experience a human being can have in MMOs', but all you cite are server merges.

The server situation was short-sightedness on Bioware's part to be sure, but that alone constitues what you consider to be the 'most fail' game experience?

I can point out things that they did wrong. I can mention where I think that the story is lacking for classes that I have played. I can even argue about the crafting and wonder why so many of the orange armors are so similar (if not identical) when so many other designs/patterns are completely unmade.

I can point out a bunch of things that I dislike, but it doesn't mean that the game is some monumental failure the likes of which the world has never seen.

And when the game comes to a point where I feel like there is no enjoyment left, if I ever decide that the game is 'the most fail game experience' that I can have (or more likely, just feel that I am ready to move on from the game), then I certainly won't be hanging around the forums to complain and cry about it.
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Thulcondar
09.28.2012 , 08:32 AM | #39
"Przemo_No" What he said!!! The story of the game and I disdain any who want to turn this in WOWTOR. I don't want spreadsheets of calculations explaining how I can tweak my toon to get .005 more dps/heal or whatever. It's all about the stories, "living" in the period and enjoying the GAME!
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Thulcondar
09.28.2012 , 08:36 AM | #40
"And when the game comes to a point where I feel like there is no enjoyment left, if I ever decide that the game is 'the most fail game experience' that I can have (or more likely, just feel that I am ready to move on from the game), then I certainly won't be hanging around the forums to complain and cry about it. "

After 7 years of WOW that is what it had become for me so I left. We haven't even been here a year yet! Anyone who is involved in this industry will tell coding is a PIN IN THE ***! One tweak has unknown consequences in something totally unrelated. Happens all the time. I just expect the game to evolve, that is all I ask.
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