They are already discussing milking the subscribers

The bottom line is simple:

Do not say one thing and do another.

The problem is not charging for the content. The problem is BW making public statements saying subscribers won't pay for the content then turning around and BW making public statements saying subscribers may have to pay for the content.

If you haven't figured out whether or not to charge, how hard is it to avoid saying "we probably won't charge for it"? NO ONE would have gotten upset about this entire issue if from the get-go they had said "we'll probably charge for it" and THEN said "y'know, we haven't made up our minds about charging for it or not".

Defending them not being able to master public relations by saying "they are a business and have to make money" completely misses the point. Attacking them by saying charging for content is somehow wrong also completely misses the point.

Yeah they said less than a year ago that they were going to have a subscription based model with no cash shop and no microtransactions. How's that working out?

Well, we're going to have to agree to disagree on that--like I said in my original reply, I recall that text being in the FAQ back on July 31st, the day free-to-play was announced, so if that's your 'recent', I'd be curious to know where you heard prior to the official announcement about the Cartel Coins that it would be in question.



I think it's exactly what it says: free-to-play will have to pay for the content, and there is nothing there or what could be read into it as to how it's going to be handled for subscribers. The implication is that it would be free to subscribers, but I wouldn't conclude that without it being stated so explicitly.

It wasn't in the orginal F2P blub and the FAQ came later.

Yeah it's impossible to say for sure until details are given.

This thread is all based on speculations and i want to tel everyone that doesnt know that subscribers will be getting a set ammount of cartel coins every month. Even if it were to cost additional funds, aslong as you can pay with cartel coins, it ends up beeing free for subscribers, so lets stop the pre-emptive QQ.

Well you'd have to hope subscribers get at least as many cartel coins per month as spending $15 in the cashshop for them would get you.

Because subs are a month in month out income, and as such deserve that much.

Agreed. BW would just introduce uber-expensive items that would tempt us to get 'em earlier than we would if we just used our subs.

Basically, you want them to turn the game into Every Other MMO out there.

It's not a mistake, it's one of the attractions of TOR for me. It at least resembles an RPG, unlike the glorified dungeon crawlers like Rift or WoW.

If the game shuts down will you change your mind about the mistake part?

The devs already said the voiced content is extremely expensive and takes a long time that's why no new class story content...maybe ever.

I liked the idea myself but if they can't afford the "vision" they should...try to make do without or the gates will close.

This basically happens with every other F2P MMO that uses the cash-shop model (LOTRO, Perfect World), so as such it's pretty much "industry standard" and I'm pretty sure EAWare is going to follow that paradigm.