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no more black hole comms in story EC?

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moonshoter
09.27.2012 , 10:44 PM | #51
Also were is the TFB Level relic that were on the PTS that did not go live . so this may not be a bug at all they may plan to make TFB and the other places reward them some how, other then the weekly . At least i hope thats what it is . . IF not then why SUb for that matter why even play Swtor i like to raid and plan to keep subing but if this is ment to be its a bad move on there part . and another kick in the face at the guy that pays to play the game to raid . . well wait and see i guess ......

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Admoniter
09.27.2012 , 11:04 PM | #52
Quote: Originally Posted by moonshoter View Post
Also were is the TFB Level relic that were on the PTS that did not go live . so this may not be a bug at all they may plan to make TFB and the other places reward them some how, other then the weekly . At least i hope thats what it is . . IF not then why SUb for that matter why even play Swtor i like to raid and plan to keep subing but if this is ment to be its a bad move on there part . and another kick in the face at the guy that pays to play the game to raid . . well wait and see i guess ......
They commented on this on the live stream, the 400 comm relics weren't meant for live and accidently ended up on the pts. Here's the link , and here is the direct quote.

Quote:
Q: With the coming new 1.4 Update, what is the reason behind relics that cost 400 Daily Commendations but only marginally better or new Black Hole gear that costs 350 Black Hole Commendations
The side effect of PTS is that occasionally items that are not intended for live made it up there and unfortunately that specific item was the case of that. So that item in particular is going to be removed, reviewed, and hopefully a better version will come out in a future update.
Mind you this begs the question of why the hazmat implants somehow made it to live seeing as they offer just as much of a marginal stat boost for what is a similar amount of comms.

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moonshoter
09.27.2012 , 11:33 PM | #53
Guess thats why I said what i said maybe this is intened and not a bugg with plans later on like a week or two
to give us a better way to get comms for SMs like EC TFB but not for SMEV/KP other then the weekly im ok with that .


.....if not sigh but ill just wait and see and for now i have stoped stacking game card time ... .

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ChuangTzu
09.28.2012 , 08:36 AM | #54
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Everyone - thank you for your reports and questions. We're following up right now to determine if this was an intentional change, and we'll let you know (and update the patch notes if necessary)!
Any news on this yet? Also, what about BH comms for SM TFB?
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AllisonBerryman
09.28.2012 , 08:44 AM | #55 Click here to go to the next staff post in this thread. Next  
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Any news on this yet? Also, what about BH comms for SM TFB?
I do have an update on this issue. This change was intentional, and we'll be adding it to the patch notes. Bosses in Story Mode Operations no longer drop Black Hole Commendations in Game Update 1.4. Thanks to everyone who brought this up, and we apologize for the confusion over it.

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moonshoter
09.28.2012 , 08:49 AM | #56
Quote: Originally Posted by AllisonBerryman View Post
I do have an update on this issue. This change was intentional, and we'll be adding it to the patch notes. Bosses in Story Mode Operations no longer drop Black Hole Commendations in Game Update 1.4. Thanks to everyone who brought this up, and we apologize for the confusion over it.

And why ? or is that asking to much and plz no comments form others who really dont know . ... if it is to stop gearing up in end game gear then stop reing modes etc for the schamatic we can stil gear up in end game gear and not raid ... some one on my server is allready selling level 27 s . sorry about the venting but what re Dev thinking about if when F2p goes in the only way to raid and ware that gear is to sub why should it matter were BH conns drops .... if Subing maybe the only way to get alot of them .... I won't be runin SM EC any more no reason to even the mats are not worth the waste of time and nor will I run NIM KP any more no point in it any more other then maybe the mount or hat im told the hat drops in hm to so why run NIM ... and why even have the weekly SMs give BHs sigh ...

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Woetoo
09.28.2012 , 08:52 AM | #57
Quote: Originally Posted by AllisonBerryman View Post
I do have an update on this issue. This change was intentional, and we'll be adding it to the patch notes. Bosses in Story Mode Operations no longer drop Black Hole Commendations in Game Update 1.4. Thanks to everyone who brought this up, and we apologize for the confusion over it.
Maybe it would help if you could explain WHY?

Because I'm sensing a Camel's Back & Straw moment.

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I actually laughed out loud.

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ChuangTzu
09.28.2012 , 08:58 AM | #58
Quote: Originally Posted by moonshoter View Post
And why ? or is that asking to much and plz no comments form others who really dont know . ... if it is to stop gearing up in end game gear then stop reing modes etc for the schamatic we can stil gear up in end game gear and not raid ... some one on my server is allready selling level 27 s . sorry about the venting but what re Dev thinking about if when F2p goes in the only way to raid and were that gear is to sub why should it matter were BH conns drops ....
Yes exerlant question, this change will just make it harder to transition from SM to HM.
"Words are for conveying ideas, but when the ideas are understood, you forget the words. How I would love to talk to someone who's forgotten all the words!" Chuang Tzu

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Leovinus
09.28.2012 , 09:11 AM | #59
Quote: Originally Posted by AllisonBerryman View Post
I do have an update on this issue. This change was intentional, and we'll be adding it to the patch notes. Bosses in Story Mode Operations no longer drop Black Hole Commendations in Game Update 1.4. Thanks to everyone who brought this up, and we apologize for the confusion over it.
Exactly why? Especially considering the absolutely ridiculous prices on the new implants for stupidly minimal upgrades. The justification behind those prices was that folks would now be able to obtain lots of BH comms in additional ways. I wouldn't really call this additional more than shifting it to higher difficulty content. And Group Finder content. Forcing people to run daily FPs, and weekly story mode original ops through the group finder really isn't the way.

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yoshua
09.28.2012 , 09:16 AM | #60
There are less and less reasons to run old content, and for my new 50 characters more and more irritations on gearing up.


I think it is poor judgement to retro nerf things that should have been setup this way in the first place. I understand that SM's can now be ran in columi, and get rakata. That makes them truly tier 1, and that is great.

However SM Denova and SM TFB are not possible to run in columi, and only drop rakata except 2 BH pieces, one from each of the last bosses. So basically you have to be in Rakata Plus to run these, but there is no point to continually run them when you have 8 people with 12 needed bh items and only 2 items drop per run. Yes you can still do your dailies for comms, but the fact that you have nerfed the ability to get a full BH geared toon out to being MONTHS instead of weeks is detrimental to the community.

No bh in Tier 1? EV/KP? ABSOLUTELY

But once you get to SM EC you are now on par with the hard mode tier 1's, and already have full rakata. What is the point in running them?


Established 50's this isnt going to affect too much, but alts and NEW PLAYERS will be alienated by this change. And you people need MORE new players, not less.
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