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SamuelAU
09.21.2012 , 10:05 AM | #1
Hey everyone. Today I was tanking Chasing the Shadow and the Scoundrel of the group was opening every fight with his droid cc before I could use my stealth cc, at the same time making the entire mob attack him.

The first 2 or 3 times I managed to round up all of the enemies and we finished the mob. The third time I just focused on one enemy and let him die.

The right approach to a DPS or healer jumping the gun too often and not letting you tank?

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MagnitudeZero
09.21.2012 , 10:16 AM | #2
In my opinion, no.

When difficult pulls are made like that by impatient/stupid dps, the temptation is there to just stand and let them die, I play a healer so I do get what you're saying.

But I'd rather get as much practice in at healing as possible, and for the most part I will always try to keep everyone alive as much as possible - tbh sometimes I'm the "Idiot" running in with a mortar volley whilst everyone else discusses CC, just because I want to make the encounters more challenging and fun.

Of course I understand that people just want smooth runs and to get flashpoints over with as quickly as possible. But if I were you I'd try to tank and take as much as you can, it will only result in you getting better at handling adds and managing your cooldowns.

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09.21.2012 , 10:33 AM | #3
With CtS which can be 2 manned with no problems, I would say just round up everything pull after pull. It's really not that hard of an instance since nothing hits incredibly hard. Flashpoints on the other hand, I will let a DPS which is pulling die all day long. I have never seen a healer do pulling though but wont say it doesn't happen. Just don't let the healer die because if they go down, you just might go down yourself.
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mikebevo
09.21.2012 , 11:29 AM | #4
Quote: Originally Posted by haliy View Post
With CtS which can be 2 manned with no problems,
CtS can be easily one manned, without companion until the final boss with a sawbones. Easy to kill everything or to do it the sneaky way. Final boss is easy with companion. I can't do it without, sure others can.

Even though I can do it without anyone else, when teamed with a tank or normal group, I will wait for the tank to pull. However when doing it with just dps, I will pull and let everything attack me and free the dps up to do their jobs. Any sawbones with half a clue can survive anything in CtS with no trouble in anything above columi. My normal practice in CtS is mark my CCs. I will stealth CC one and when the tank pulls CC the droid as I come out of stealth. In the first room I will then flash bang the weak Devaronian looking guy by the bar. DPS and the Tank usually never pay attention to him and he shots the healer until the end.

So I agree with the OP, let them die, just don't be surprise if they don't die and you end of dying during the final boss. Just joking...I say asked the politely to let you do your job. They just may not know the correct way to play the game. I do understand your frustration, I haven't done CtS in two weeks in a group. Just get tired of all the rude people, which is stupid because 90% of the people I have grouped with have been great, it is just that 10% or less percent is really annoying.

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09.21.2012 , 09:58 PM | #5
Quote: Originally Posted by SamuelAU View Post

The right approach to a DPS or healer jumping the gun too often and not letting you tank?

yes.

if a dps is a dewsh let him die.
if a healer is a dewsh let him die.
if a tank is a dewsh let him die.
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AngusFTW
09.22.2012 , 03:52 AM | #6
lol when me and my healer buddy 2 man this we dont cc anything to stop it being boring for him and i'm a dps. So i dont really see why people should be dieing on this..
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Oggthebase
09.22.2012 , 03:59 AM | #7
Did you tell him that you needed to be out of combat in order to apply your CC? Sometimes people do not know that and assume you can because their cc works in combat. Some people are just plain new to the game so communication is key.

"can you please wait before starting the battle that I stun this guy? I can only do it before the combat starts. Thank you very much!"

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Brittaany_Banks
09.22.2012 , 06:18 AM | #8
My policy as the healer is as follows...

I will ask them politely to make sure and let the tank pull first. If they do not the next time I will give them a last warning to let the tank pull first. If they continue to perform such behavior I will not heal them if they pull from that point forward allowing them to die. I will of course heal them due to peel agro and/or if they accidentally steal agro from the tank but just because I am a full Rakata/Black Hole/Campaign geared sage healer doesn't mean I want to draw heal agro from healing you whether I can heal through it or not.
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Decoy_Tactics
09.22.2012 , 07:30 AM | #9
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfr2F8F1xms

But seriously, I play a healer, and sometimes someone does something a that's a bit silly. But the fact is, these sort of things happen from time to time. Sometimes a player is new, or they're having an off-day, or there's some issues with hardware or connectivity. I mean, I know a lot of people get frustrated by failure or stymied progress,, but I would rather have a cheerful team that's playing at less than maximum efficiency, than an unpleasant one where everyone is cuffing each other for any and all errors, but everyone is breezing through.

Although, part of this is bias, because sometimes I have been the one to make a silly mistake, and I have had very generous players afford me a good measure of patience and kindness. :P

Basically, good communication is the best salve for these kind of problems.

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Sithcreep
09.22.2012 , 09:59 AM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by SamuelAU View Post
Hey everyone. Today I was tanking Chasing the Shadow and the Scoundrel of the group was opening every fight with his droid cc before I could use my stealth cc, at the same time making the entire mob attack him.

The first 2 or 3 times I managed to round up all of the enemies and we finished the mob. The third time I just focused on one enemy and let him die.

The right approach to a DPS or healer jumping the gun too often and not letting you tank?
Agreed! Nothing more annoying than those overeager DPS. Do everyone a favor and let them die.