Perception that the game is dead

Well if you haven't logged in yet .. then you don't actually know if the game is dead or alive. In fact, given the "perception" you seem to be reporting from the game is both dead and alive at the same time. Sorta like schrodinger's cat.

I look at it this way Imhotep.....

Nobody can access a locked server unless they already have characters on it. So that means only returning veterans. So we can eliminate the new player base from the equation completely, which frankly would be the most vulnerable segment to misperception.

Now, if a returning veteran is not savvy enough to be informed of the main elements of the current state of the game, why did they come back and resub?? And any way you slice it, locked origin servers and character transfers is a main element of the current state of the game. It is VERY common knowledge that server transfers went live in early summer, so I find it hard to believe a veteran would not already know this AND be able to put 2 and 2 together and come up with 4.

Given all of the above, if the resubscriber in question is somehow unable to connect the dots (seeing an empty server, seeing alert notices pop-up on screen, tabbing back and checking server select and seeing live servers at the top of the list and lots of locked servers) and not at least go brush up on the state of the game..... well then we really did not lose anything significant in the gene pool contribution to the player base.

TL;DR: NO, I don't buy in to your premise of concern in the original post.

So what you're telling me is...

We cannot know if the game is dead, unless we actually log in and find it dead?

I think that level of simplicity and clear thinking is disallowed the forums. May have to check the ToS.

checking the ToS is also disallowed on these forums... ironically it's against the ToS

Okay, I found two provisions that apply here:

1) All posts must be rambling walls-of-text with confused logic and scant evidence.

2) All posts must discuss how SWTOR is either dying or dead.

There you have it... everytime I've discussed how I actually like playing, I've been in clear contravention of the rules. May have to report myself.

or maybe people have more fun bashing the game then playing it.

First, the game many of you have been tracking closely, Star Wars: The Old Republic.
Although it launched well, subscriptions have been on a declining trajectory and have now slipped below one million. Last year we announced that the breakeven point was roughly 500,000 subscribers. And while we are well above that today, that’s not good enough. The message from players exiting the game is clear – 40 percent say they were turned off by the monthly subscription. And many indicated they would come back if we offered a free-to-play model. Our plan now is to pivot and provide a two-tiered pricing plan which will make the game more accessible and grow the audience. The new pricing will go into effect in November.

Read this:
http://www.darthhater.com/articles/s...-earnings-call



Make of that what you will, seems pretty open and honest to me.

Sounds like they think their player base is cheap. Not sure how I feel about that.