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ImperialSun
09.13.2012 , 10:27 AM | #81
Quote: Originally Posted by Rayla_Felana View Post
But the GCW era lasted a whole of 21 years, depending on your POV, most of the time their are a ton of Sith and Jedi and other neutral parties all over the place, which makes absolute perfect sense seeing as how the force encompasses the entire galaxy, you are going to have more than a handful of force sensitives at a time.

What you consider to be the norm is actually the complete opposite.
I completely understand and technically, you are right. I am a fan of Star Wars as a whole but that rationale when used in a MMORPG just leads to 80% of the player base being Jeedai or Sith.....which gets old pretty quick imo.

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Kahotep
09.13.2012 , 10:32 AM | #82
My personal experience has led me to believe that the Venn Diagram of all people who like Star Wars and all people who play MMO's has a very small overlap. I think the basic assumption that if you made a Star Wars MMO then 10 million Star Wars fans would flock to play it was wrong from the start.

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Odosept
09.13.2012 , 10:36 AM | #83
When I found out that this game was set in the Old Republic, not in the movies' storyline like SWG was, I was pretty disappointed. But I realized it offered a more unique and vast storyline and creative material. SWG was limited by only what we already knew happened in the main SW story. Plus, in order not to alienate new players, they didn't really advance the storyline at all. The timeline was after ANH, before ESB, so you'd think that eventually they would let you play the Battle of Hoth (I know they did something like that, but bowed out before it happened) and incorporate ROTJ eventually too. But that would have been difficult to do, and then afterwards would be challenging to make new content to keep up.

Basically, when it comes to SW TV shows, games, books, comic books, etc. the original trilogy has been done to death. Yes, it's what made us love SW in the first place, but you gotta let the SW universe evolve and bring in new things. Another SWG would have been boring because it's been done. Maybe years from now they'll give it another trym but right now I'm happy with the new content in SWTOR that I haven't seen before.

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Rayla_Felana
09.13.2012 , 10:44 AM | #84
Quote: Originally Posted by ImperialSun View Post
I completely understand and technically, you are right. I am a fan of Star Wars as a whole but that rationale when used in a MMORPG just leads to 80% of the player base being Jeedai or Sith.....which gets old pretty quick imo.

Driz
AH I see your issue and I agree, but I think the Force User novelty will wear off for a lot of people, many now play Trooepr and BH because of their effectiveness in PVP and clean up trash button AOEs.

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AERHAE
09.13.2012 , 10:59 AM | #85
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Whats niave is to think the movies are the end all be all. You don't have to know anything about an extend SW universe to know there is more to it. You might personally want it to be in a certain time period but SWTOR is not in the movie settings. Never has been, never announced as and most likely never will be.



No, whats common sense is people relating to the movies. The game is not a direct extension of those movies but a prequel of sorts. Our expereince may be the movies but if you came into the game thinking SWTOR was that then I'd say you didn't play any of TOR games or read anything about SWTOR MMO before it came out.


Point of view only (AKA opinion), we all have one.

I'm more attached to my SW toons they I have ever been in other MMO's simply cause of the individual stories. Even when making dialogue choices that mean nothing at the end of the day, it's more fun to answer quest dialogue in a way I want than some automatic text driven read through. The game does deliver, just not to you.



It's not immersion that causing people to leave. If anything, it's lack of content to be played.



Content is what keeps you logging in, not immersion. The game has immersion but the content needs to expand and grow and at the rate we consume it, it's very hard for any new MMO to keep up. It's the same I see in a secert world, or GW2 - We race through the leveling, finish the end game and then grip cause there is no content. Immersion is a very distant second for holding gamers.

But of course all that is also my POv and opinion so you see how the rest of the debate might go. Probably no where.

However, this game is very much SW. Wanting it to be set in the movie period is one thing but claiming it's not SW cause it's not played out during those times is silly at best.
Your wrong.From a role players point of view immersion/features is what keeps you logging on everyday.
Are we saying now this is not a MMO?,because if we look at this as not a MMO, then your right.
That's my whole point.
Your views on people who never read the books but have seen all the movies are different then mine,I accept that.
BUT,if your right,why are people leaving the game?
Again,that's my point.
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Blackavaar
09.13.2012 , 11:07 AM | #86
Maybe your friends need to try reading a book or two.
There's more to Star Wars than just the movies.

Only the meek get pinched. The bold survive.

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AERHAE
09.13.2012 , 11:09 AM | #87
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackavaar View Post
Maybe your friends need to try reading a book or two.
There's more to Star Wars than just the movies.

So are you saying we need to read books now in order to get into this game.........Really?
LOL..........unreal.
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Bethmora
09.13.2012 , 11:10 AM | #88
I would agree to a point its not Star Wars. One you have to understand is not eveyone plays PS3/Xbox and just do online. So for us this is a version we dont know anything about, nights of the old republic. i think they should have done it closer to the movies like SWG and it would be more if a hit but BW has yet to even come close to what SWG did.

The problem now is giving us a planet we dont know a Cat race we dont know. What we need is stuff everyone can connect with like Dagobah, Endor, Kashyyk just to name a few. Now im not saying Mekab is not part of the star Wars planets but its not one people know of unless they get deep into all the planets. BW needs to start giving us what we know of and remember and things we want to see and play and do. we are close to a year and there is many things not in game but that is another thread.

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Urael
09.13.2012 , 11:11 AM | #89
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So are you saying we need to read books now in order to get into this game.........Really?
LOL..........unreal.
He said nothing of the sort. YOU inferred that. He was just simply stating that the SWU is more than the movies and suggesting another source for you to expand your horizons.

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AERHAE
09.13.2012 , 11:15 AM | #90
Quote: Originally Posted by Urael View Post
He said nothing of the sort. YOU inferred that. He was just simply stating that the SWU is more than the movies and suggesting another source for you to expand your horizons.
There would be no Star Wars Universe or its creation without the movies.The movies kicked all that off.
There was no writing books on star wars until after the first movie came out.Then the writers started there history but only when Lucas approved it.
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