This is not Star Wars

is this the same EU that's so far tried to make revan and the emperor, better stronger and more force adept than palpatine and (anikin minus the force adept)

i would listen to the EU more if it wasn't written by people who make up characters who have to be the biggest and best

To me SWTOR is much more Star Wars than SWG ever was...I guess different people have different opinions of what Star Wars is.

Yeah it is very interesting...I have the completely opposite view.

For me, SWG was great because it allowed you to be that unknown farmer or low level criminal, it allowed you to be an Imperial loyalist or a rebel sympathiser and the same time as being the unknown musician or crafter or businessman....it was the fact that you could play a normal person in SW universe and make your own way that was so appealing.

For me, particularly the original saga was all about the normal people coming together and finding a way, it was about conquering insurmountable odds through the whole being more than a sum of the component parts.

When everything kicked off in Ep 4....did they do what they need to with what they had? Yes. Did they call the Power Rangers? No.

SWTOR by going down the "You are the hero" route dilutes this feeling for me. In a single player RPG devs can get away with it but in an MMO I feel like Robocop rather than being a cog in the wheels of a galactic civil war...

Like I said, very interesting what Star Wars "means" to different people

Driz

First of all

1-3 is trash, anyone who says otherwise is under the age of 13 or not a star wars fan at all.

Second of all, SWG was set in the GCW era, and we all know how that turned out.

Nobody could play jedi, sot hey *****ed.

Then everyone coudl play jedi, and everyone *****ed.

GCW era while awesome does not let everyone play the 'iconic stuff' in star wars.

In an era like this people can roleplay pretty much whatever they want, do whatever they want. It's WIDE open.



And if you REALLY want to get them interested in the era, get them a copy of Knights of the Old Republic to play on their PC, i's like $5 on steam. It's their choice if thy want to play the incomplete game KOTOR2 or not.

is this the same EU that's so far tried to make revan and the emperor, better stronger and more force adept than palpatine and (anikin minus the force adept)

i would listen to the EU more if it wasn't written by people who make up characters who have to be the biggest and best

See, SWG had this.

RP playground that was unrivaled by any others when it comes to Star Wars.

What it lacked was non ****** gameplay, with the exception of space combat, which was amazing.

It was a sandbox with bad gameplay, such bad gameplay they completely redid it three times and it was still not good. It was playable sure, but it just couldn't compete with MMO's on the market, by 2010 it was extremely dated and it was obvious. It was unresponsive, animations bled into eachother, sounds bugged out, the graphics were deplorable, and your options wre limited since NGE as to what you could do.

What SWG had going for it was literally the greatest RP playground in existance, you could literally do anything. That is why a lot of people stayed, because they could decorate homes, make cities, use storyteller stuff, be anything they wanted to be. The issue with that was lore wouldn't let you do whatever you wanted, becuase the GCW era is locked up pretty tight for a lot of types of roleplay. There is no room for 100 or so Jedi to be running around after the purge.

This game on the other hand has amazing gameplay, it's graphics are great, it's animations are great, everything about it is great. IT's got the best 1-50 leveling of any game, it's got good content at the end (just not enough). But it doens't have that RP playground aspect of SWG. You're stuck doing the same kind of RP you were doing in other MMORPGs, but hey star wars!

It's cool, I liked both games. SWG was my first MMORPG, I can look at it objectively. I went to bigger and better things after it, but TOR's my end result and where I'm sticking until something comes aorund that interests me more, and then hey TOR's still free to play.

In essence you are right, although I am a Pre CU vet so cant agree on everything you said. But yes, if you could have SWG's scope, depth, freedom and flexibility combined with SWTORs polish, playability etc....well thats just the stuff dreams are made of..... For what its worth, I love the EU stuff but would prefer a Star Wars MMORPG to be set in the GCW era BECAUSE it means no Jedi and Sith running around by the thousand....but I do understand the kids want the glow bats so businesses like EA will serve it up for them.

Driz