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Unsubscriber's Thread: Tell us a few things

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Hessen
09.13.2012 , 02:42 AM | #371
I've enjoyed the Theme Park, I've been on all the rides and they were good.

But now I've been on them all I don't want to go on them all again.

So I'm going to go and play with some lego instead, as each time I play with it, it's different.
Twisted
EU - Tomb of Freedon Nadd
16m Raiding Guild - Recruiting

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SithBongious
09.13.2012 , 06:01 AM | #372
Bioware, if you want me as a customer for any longer, you will do the right thing and read my 6 points.

1:- The most heartbreaking - Lockout Timers on Raids?!
I can run BT or D7 1,000,000 times a week, or even LI HM, which drops better loot than EV SM, but Im NOT allowed to re-run a raid?! WHY, oh WHY, oh WHY, oh WHY have you not just fixed this already BY IMPLEMENTING the following Guideline :- """Please note, once a raid is completed, it is not LOCKED OUT for Re-Running, but you WILL be LOCKED OUT of the gear for that raid"""" Id even go as far to suggest that with the 8 raids we have split over 3 ACTUAL RAID LOCATIONS with the difference being difficulty - (EV SM,HM,NIM) (KP SM,HM,NIM) (EC,SM HM) why not go ONE STEP FURTHER, and say "All Loot for the raids will remain unchanged. However, the Loots will share a Global Raid Lockout - Completing EV NIM will reward you with NIM loots BUT LOCK YOU OUT of EV SM and HM loots for the week. These raids however will still be re-runnable by you, with loot already taken for that Raid for the week" Cmon Bioware - DO I HAVE TO ACCEPT that i log in on Wednesday, Clear EC HM and then log out for the entire week? Theres ZERO to bring me back, and when F2P comes, who wants to PAY to raid when you do it once and thats it. Its a system that needs to be re-evaluated.

2:- Broken Promises
In the years leading up to this game (my first MMO) I did read alot about how one of the ways SWTOR was going to have that WOW factor, was the promise of unrivalled content. The game so far has been released coming up to one year, and we have been fed 3 raids with a total of 14 bosses - Almost 5 months has been on 4 bosses in EC alone. The announcements of 2 new raids (1 being a NIM EC) was promising, but those announcements are so long ago now. You promised to deliver the community that WOW factor many times before this game launched, and you have broken promises with this game too many times.

3:- Lack of Commitment to your Community
Your SWTOR Community IMO is simply not just us the gamers, its your staff. The black and white of it is, you have reduced your staff by over 1/2, thus reducing the level of commitment us your customers are receiving by your own company. Theres no justification at all for a business model that develops a game like this, spending the millions of dollars you have spent, launching it, disbanding your staff, and then expecting your customers to simply "swallow it" Now, your telling the 1+ million players who have at one time bought this game and on top of that, paid for subscription time, your telling us "Oh, now the game is free...", ensuring that all of us who have actually paid for the game, will never be fully thanked or focussed on, because you have got what you wanted, halved your staff so you can spread your bonus's to less people, and overall, you have alienated yourself from your community. We pay for a service and experience, now by the time F2P is in and completed, the question is, "how many of US will still be here paying?" But we all know you dont care, because with F2P comes microtransactions, and thats where your commitment is now, and not with your community. And your customer service, honestly, shows how much you just dont give a flying F about us. For a company that created such amazing solo-player games, your first MMO adventure is definitely not a customer service friendly experience.

4:- Loading times
Never played a computer game before with such horrendous load times. And your missions encourage us to be stuck staring at THE SAME loading screen picture so often. Go to your faction HQ. Go to your HQ Fleet. Back to your faction HQ. Sounds easy enough, except for a mission that takes 3 minutes to action, your confronted with 15-20 minutes of Loadscreens. For me, its simply ridiculous. Honestly. Too many load screens from Mission to Ship in, to ship out, to planet in, loading into a planet after PVP and missing the queue because it popped and the 3 minute load screen F'D you? Its just atrocious

5:- Clear PVP Imbalance, even for the casual
So in pvp 10-49, you can achieve 200-300 wins / 400-500 matches it seems just by turning up. When you first hit level 50, you wouldnt take green gear into EC HM. But its OK to have your first 50 PVP match vs 8 players in War Hero gear, on a chat program, using hack programs, and your happy to suggest PVP is OK, even though at 40 comms per loss, its around 3000-6000 PVP matches perhaps more to earn your Full War Hero gear, even though when you had World PVP, players reached 100 Valor just by forming friendships with their enemies and spending hours farming valor? You have done ZERO to address this, and for the casual Queue Solo'er like me, and trust me, theres more of us than there are of Queue Group'ers, its absolutely unforgiveable. Tell me, is it fun getting anal probed every match 97/100 times? 97 x 40 loser comms + 3 x 140 winning comms = *** :S

6:- Perhaps the most crucial - Your achilles heal - Cutscenes
Everyone by now spacebars everything. Lets face it, nobody honestly cares about the Cutscenes, and honestly they feel like an amazing cop out, due to the fact that you're given millions throughout your questing to level 50, with many of them giving you copy and paste replies, and when you actually HIT level 50, theres maybe what? 4-5 cutscenes again.. Ever? Unless you replay old content and see the same cutscene over and over. Why is this your achilles heal? Because when it comes to content, you CANNOT release it without Voice-Acting. So, you need 4 Imp Females, 4 Imp Males, 4 Pub Females and 4 Pub Males. You need 16 people to record voice acting for the classes you are creating, and now your wanting to advertise a new Cathar Class? So another 4 people required for the voice-acting required? If i wanted to watch a movie, id hook it up on my 100" Projector. This is a game, and I, the customer, want content. You the company, say "Sorry, we have a FlashPoint idea, but we need 16 people, and 20 people with the new Cathar race, to come in and speak millions of lines before we can give you, the customer, what you pay for" Its your biggest crutch, because unless you have the VA completed, your unable to release the content. Thats why the raids have ZERO cutscenes, because its TOO HARD BASKET to complete, especially with 16 man groups. B/W, drop the VA, and release content for the game. Or am I to accept, that running Cademimu in my Campaign Gear is the only thing I can be happy with?

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Rasticles
09.13.2012 , 06:20 AM | #373
Why I'm staying so far? Hope... period.....I'm hoping that Bioware discovers how to make an MMO.....


What's got me on the EDGE of unsubbing?

Bioware's complete and total failure on many issues.....

Armor Sets (BH and Camp) look like crap, and we get same 'ol same 'ol again, in this years hottest fashion colors: Year Old French's Mustard Yellow, and Menstrual Red........

Core minor bugs still in game since Beta
Itemization... BW has no clue
Free to Play (not against F2P, I'm against how soon we're at this juncture ....)
Party Jawa to keep us subbed = weaksauce
Attitude of the Execs in recent interviews.... showing total lack of any real clue ....

I can go on, but I won't ....I've ZERO enthusiasm left, and am about out of hope. If a few more guild members unsub, no point in me, or my GF staying around either.

We're already looking for our next MMO.....GW2 doesn't interest me. I can't believe that a Star Wars IP based game can be so screwed up, but here we are.....

I loaded in a few shooters to keep entertained, and just got into Closed Beta for an up and coming shooter, which is 110% totally amazing, and IMO the best shooter I have ever played, and I played them all.....

So, Hope, and my few remaining guild members are why I'm here, and am about out of both.....GJ Bioware....

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SentinelThain
09.13.2012 , 07:08 AM | #374
2 days left.Just can't be arsed with it anymore.3 50s and a couple of other mid level toons and i'm just bored.
Same wz's over and over grind grind and grind some more.Pvp is a stunfest (pissed off with people quitting after the other side has capped the first node too).
A lot of players are just whining children which I choose not to put up with .Cost of removing attachments is ridiculous.Direction of the game is not to my liking and the devs have been way too slow in fixing bugs,bringing out patches and new content.Armour is horrible with a few exceptions.Post 50 there just is not enough to hold my interest anymore.
Well it's been emotional but time to move on and explore pastures anew.
Laters

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Sundragon
09.13.2012 , 09:32 AM | #375
Top 5 reasons I quit:

1) My favorite class (valor rank 100) DPS sorc is getting nerfed hard in patch 1.4. I adapted to the nerf in 1.2 but another round of nerfs to my favorite class was too much to handle.

2) RWZ PvP is all about how many of the "right" classes. There is no room for a DPS sorc. I was hoping they would boost the DPS sorc and/or nerf some of the overpowered classes. Those hopes were dashed in patch 1.4.

3) No open world PvP. Ilum was a disaster because objectives were meaningless and could be taken by 1 person in 10 seconds. It was so obvious PvP was a complete afterthought; they even said so but in interviews they said that more focus would be put on PvP because they were surprised how popular it was. Yet Ilum remains a dead planet.

4) With no open world PvP, i run the same 4 Warzones over and over, which gets boring. Plus, many folks show up with 13k health and wearing green level 40 gear because they don't know about the free recruit gear or simply don't care because they are simply willing to get 6 losses just to finish their daily.

5) Too many other good options/games that are cheaper to play.
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AscendantOps
09.13.2012 , 10:03 AM | #376
Quote: Originally Posted by SentinelThain View Post
2 days left.Just can't be arsed with it anymore.3 50s and a couple of other mid level toons and i'm just bored.
Same wz's over and over grind grind and grind some more.Pvp is a stunfest (pissed off with people quitting after the other side has capped the first node too).
A lot of players are just whining children which I choose not to put up with .Cost of removing attachments is ridiculous.Direction of the game is not to my liking and the devs have been way too slow in fixing bugs,bringing out patches and new content.Armour is horrible with a few exceptions.Post 50 there just is not enough to hold my interest anymore.
Well it's been emotional but time to move on and explore pastures anew.
Laters
Exactly the same situation.

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Eljayz
09.13.2012 , 10:32 AM | #377
a) Developers who don't know the definition of balance. They probably don't even play this game Patch 1.4 is the perfect example. Why buff Focus sents/juggs/mara/guardians? Makes absolutely no sense to me. Focus was a spec that was fine as is. Now it is going to be the NEW FOTM SPEC. Changes to powertechs/vanguards to little too late. Buffs to scoundrels, too little to late after all the nurfs they endured. Sage dps buff? I wouldn't even call it a buff. Healling commando/merc buff, absolutely not necessarily, too much for a class that is one of hardest to take down in a group setting.
b) Released a game with no content, story driven mmo is exactly that, story driven mmo with absolutely nothing else.
c) Community keeps quitting at an exponential rate. I play this game to have fun with my friends, when they don't wanna stay because there is no competition, population, slow queuepops and staying means having to endure another server merger, why stay?
d) Free to play means spammers, gold farmers, a community that was perhaps the best community in all of mmos that will become diluted because bioware didn't know how to develop a game properly.
e) Who's idea was it to give recruit gear to new players? atleast champion gear with expertise on every piece may have had a bettter chance against BM and WH. recruit has absoultely NO CHANCE. BRILLIANT IDEA.
f) 8 months after launch we have yet to have.... a polished game, combat log, paid server transfers, cross server lfg, warzones, rated warzones, anything else. It took patch 1.2 to bring adjustable uis. Why should i wait any longer for things that should be STANDARD IN ALL MMOs WHEN YOU CAN'T GET IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME. Consumer confidence in bioware is completely diminished to the point its not even worth attempting FREE TO PLAY, cause anyone who's going to attempt this game will realize how bad it is to other games.

All I have to say is SWTOR was in development for HOW LONG AGAIN? And spent HOW MUCH MONEY in Development? The exponential decay of subscriptions isn't random, it's a result of a complete failure on your part.

This is what's pissed me off the most of about this game. I primarily pvp So let me see what I ended up getting.
Ilum, but ilum was taken away so no world pvp.
3 warzones, now 4. My favorite is hutball And i can't queue for what i want to play. I have to sit and wait for the chance that huball is the warzone i play in. Lower pvp population because more people are quiting everyday. Rated queues so selective, can't just log in form a group and queue, somedays we went 3 hours in queue with no pops.
So 1.2 introduced warhero gear for pvp and extra warzone. What did 1.3 bring to the table? augment kits. What does 1.4 bring to the table? Pvp weapons? and??? Warzone? That means since 1.2 I've been wearing THE SAME GEAR. 1.5 probably won't come out for another 6 months so what does that mean? That I can COME BACK AND PLAY IN 6 MONTHS AND STILL HAVE THE BEST OPTIMIZED GEAR THIS GAME HAS TO OFFER.
No gear progression, no areneas, no season 1, all i get is a story driven mmo.

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MOPSFounder
09.26.2012 , 01:04 AM | #378
Quote: Originally Posted by AscendantOps View Post
Exactly the same situation.
Later guys. Hope you guys come back when and if the game's at a more healthier and tolerable state.

Also... can I have your stuff? Just kidding!

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Yogol
09.26.2012 , 01:41 AM | #379
Quote: Originally Posted by Rasticles View Post
Why I'm staying so far? Hope... period.....I'm hoping that Bioware discovers how to make an MMO.....
Same here... hope is a funny thing... I was probably one of the last subs on SWG because of hope. Ofcourse, corporations prey on hope. Even while I KNOW they do, hope still keeps me around.

That and the fact that 15$ a month is really nothing. I mean... that's the difference between a date that pays for my candy at a movie or a date that doesn't. It's nothing.
Yogol. Rebel without a cause. Often without a clue too.
Founder of The Fruitfly Guild, the one-day-beta-guild for one-day-beta-characters.

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Yogol
09.26.2012 , 01:44 AM | #380
Quote: Originally Posted by Eljayz View Post
e) Who's idea was it to give recruit gear to new players? atleast champion gear with expertise on every piece may have had a bettter chance against BM and WH. recruit has absoultely NO CHANCE. BRILLIANT IDEA.
Yeah, that's why I dislike PvP so much. I tried it in this game, I really, really did. Mainly cause there is nothing else to do (unless you're in one of those hardcore guilds that the DEVs favor with copies to PST and such).

But in PvP you know after 30 seconds who will win: the side with the best gear. That's just lame.
Yogol. Rebel without a cause. Often without a clue too.
Founder of The Fruitfly Guild, the one-day-beta-guild for one-day-beta-characters.