Will anything actually retain customers?

League of Legends. Ran on 1 map for how long? And gained players that entire time.

They did add new champions consistently along with character updates that often drastically changed the way the game was played. Basically every update made the game feel like you were playing on a new map in it's self since the game play elements were new and different from what it was a month ago.

Here on the other hand, we have bug fixes consistently but that changes very little as to the feel of gameplay. Everyone is still doing what they have been doing since 1.3 came out (aside from when they level an alt).

I didn't leave SWG, SWG left Me!

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CU!

I wish I could find that Vid again!

The comparison was OTT on purpose.

And my point still stands. Not very many (if any) players who have played MMOs for a long time have the same demands before they started MMOs to what they want now.

Certain features, certain types of preferred content etc.

Well, it seems to be its a simple formula. Stop adding end game content as that has had probable zero effect. End game content simply burns up too quickly to justify the amount of dev time involved.

Repeatable "sandboxy" content is what's needed. More minigame and achievement type activities like I mentioned, more customization. Give players things to do, reasons to stay.

I agree with this statement. But, there is a possiblity that it dosen't apply to all equally. Usually people change in some way over time and it's usually based on experience. One can not remain a newbie forever...at some point you turn into a vet!.

A powerhouse? It was a disaster from day 1. It took about a year for them to make anything in the game more exciting than prospecting for resources. PvE almost didn't exist. PvP rarely lasted 5 seconds. The only reason the sandbox elements took off was that there was nothing else to do in the game. Without the SW license it would likely have never been launched and if it had, it would have been outlived by the Matrix Online.

The graphics in CoX blew the doors off of WoW. WoW had terribly dated graphics from day 1, as part of their evil plan to appeal to the non-PC gaming public who have hamster-powered boxes.

Agree with these points wholeheartedly.

The MxO comparison really doesn't apply IMO. But overall I think your disagreeing with an opinion that is more in line with yours, with exception to the sandbox elements. SOME of the sandbox elements took off IMO because they were superb elements. What SWG did right, like this game, it did better than any other game on the market.

The rest of the game was, of course, a bug ridden mess. It was only the appeal of those few features that kept anyone playing IMO. And for its time it did garner more than 300k subs which was quite a bit back then.

I will agree that the graphics were better than WoW, but in WoW graphics didnt matter much at the time...people go where people are, and the game had one thing on most other games at that time...it was an easy game to pick up and play with a narrow learning curve.

City of Heroes was far easier to pick up and play, there was no gear, no talent points, a ridiculously easy to use group finder tool and you could do nothing but press 1, 2, 3 all the way to 50.

It was purely because of the genre that it wasn't more popular IMO. Great game, and I wish more people had played and enjoyed it.