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F2P is Costing the Payers


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Skyzen
09.05.2012 , 09:08 PM | #71
Quote: Originally Posted by Styxx View Post
Well... what we paid for was no content since April. That`s 50 cents a day to ride the same broken merry-go-round.
This made me laugh. Not only is it funny, but it is very true. The picture my mind created from reading this was watching Doctor Lokin transform into nothing when you change his stance. This has been broken for the last few months. An unacceptable bug which should have been fixed shortly after it was broken.

If only they could fix the bugs, it would be a huge leap for BW. I recently unsubscribed. I didn't feel the value in my subscription matched the value of my enjoyment of this game.

I, however would pay a subscription for GW2 if they required it. That game is effervescent with creativity and quality. Top notch talent and sense.
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Tuscad
09.05.2012 , 09:27 PM | #72
Quote: Originally Posted by Roechacca View Post
well actually its not costing the players hence the term "free".
Actually it is, it is costing the subbers to pay for the "frees".
Date Joined: March 2009 - Date unsubbed: 9/18/2012
It's been real but the game just wasn't worth the sub for me anymore.
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RobNightfall
09.05.2012 , 10:43 PM | #73
Quote: Originally Posted by Syntherx View Post
I'm simply not stupid enough to think that I'm entitled to more than I'm paying for or that EA/BW somehow needs to give me something. To even entertain that thought shows that one is egotistical and downright stupid. I dare you to find anywhere in the EULA ot TOU that promises you that EA/BW will regularly (it will give a time/date since it is a contract) give you updates and new content. You won't find one. You agreed to those contracts so don't whine now that Bioware needs to give you something more than you agreed to.
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You may not be stupid, but you don't appear to think much of yourself either. Seriously, you are the paying customer, and you think you don't deserve decent treatment and information about an ongoing service you're paying for? That's sad. Perhaps you should check into some self-esteem affirmations for yourself.
Edited because the devs appear to have fixed at least 80% of the crap that was pissing me off.

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Styxx
09.05.2012 , 11:55 PM | #74
Quote: Originally Posted by GalacticKegger View Post
I believe this is where we differ. It's not broken nor is it a merry-go-round for me. And even if it was I wouldn't belabor it every chance I got. I'd simply be elsewhere playing something that wasn't broken.
Just a bit of trivia... doesn`t it look like the smuggler`s Campaign gear looks like Robin Hood?

http://www.darthhater.com/articles/f...-gear/smuggler <-- it`s even green

http://www.whatabeautifullife.com/C3...me-p22682.html <-- just for lulz, but you can google and have ample comparison material.

http://www.imdb.com/media/rm1597479168/tt0029843
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm143232000/tt0029843 <--- the 2 links are pics for the hat... imagine 2 stylized feathers on left and right and you got it.

This is who you are defending. The Dev that managed to get Robin Hood into Star Wars.
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NotSevv
09.06.2012 , 12:02 AM | #75
Quote: Originally Posted by Thornsbane View Post
Secondly, what aspect of F2P do some think the devs are working so hard on? The cash shop or something? Because that probably has zero to do with the artists, modelers, scripters etc. Most of that is managers sitting in offices decided what to sell and for how much.
This is untrue cash shop will have alot of "fluff" atleast taking artists, modelers, and scripters time to put new designs into the game.
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Kahldor
09.06.2012 , 12:17 AM | #76
Quote: Originally Posted by GalacticKegger View Post
Now why on earth would you put words like that in someone else's mouth? Time to market is time to market. The more complex a game's foundation is the longer it takes to embellish. And I'll believe a 75% loss of customers when I see it. Because when I log in I don't see it ... not even close. As a subscriber that's the only place where it counts. Drooga's had 183 in fleet last night - and that was in the 3rd instance. Begeren and Jedi Covenant are close behind. I really wish people would stop making stuff up to discredit who or whatever it is they are trying to discredit.
Hey Mr Rose-Colored glasses, you do realize they shut down 80% of their servers right and forced merges? Wow, get in touch with reality bud. At launch Ebon Hawk was 200+ on the fleets at any one time. Now, even after all the merges it is between 80-160. And this doesn't even take into account that fewer people are on the planets than at launch.

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GalacticKegger
09.06.2012 , 12:40 AM | #77
Quote: Originally Posted by Styxx View Post
Just a bit of trivia... doesn`t it look like the smuggler`s Campaign gear looks like Robin Hood?

http://www.darthhater.com/articles/f...-gear/smuggler <-- it`s even green

http://www.whatabeautifullife.com/C3...me-p22682.html <-- just for lulz, but you can google and have ample comparison material.

http://www.imdb.com/media/rm1597479168/tt0029843
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm143232000/tt0029843 <--- the 2 links are pics for the hat... imagine 2 stylized feathers on left and right and you got it.

This is who you are defending. The Dev that managed to get Robin Hood into Star Wars.
Funny stuff. Glad you made such a concerted effort to prove that I defend a game. I think. Fortunately for me all I have to do to prove my point is log in and play. Feathers are optional. Oh wait ... unless you care to join me (usually on Drooga's, but I have alts on Jedi Covenant and Begeren) I'd be the only one amongst we two who can verify what I see. Since the odds of that ever happening are (metaphorically speaking) zilch, I suppose it really doesn't matter.

If folks choose to express their support for something by publicly tearing it a new tweeter, that's between them and their tweeter. I personally choose to express my support by paying and playing. Submitting tickets is the norm when I encounter issues, and I've posted my fair share of complaints in these forums. I just won't complain about the same thing a hundred times; nor will I carpet bomb the game, the developer or the community in pubescent angst. I'm adult like that.
Can we please just have our pre-KotFE SWTOR MMORPG back?

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GalacticKegger
09.06.2012 , 12:49 AM | #78
Quote: Originally Posted by Kahldor View Post
Hey Mr Rose-Colored glasses, you do realize they shut down 80% of their servers right and forced merges? Wow, get in touch with reality bud. At launch Ebon Hawk was 200+ on the fleets at any one time. Now, even after all the merges it is between 80-160. And this doesn't even take into account that fewer people are on the planets than at launch.
I'll see your Ebon Hawk and raise you a Drooga's Pleasure Barge, which recently (as you so kindly quoted) had 183 in rep fleet ... in a 3rd instance. My rose colored glasses extend to my understanding that any game (not just this one) can go away in a microsecond - therefor I choose to enjoy playing it while it's here. If I want to live in turmoil I'll move in with my ex.

Not even the almighty you can predict whether or not this game will still be here in 3 years. Or whether an xpac will be announced in the next 12 months. Or any number of things. If slamming people for simply enjoying a game on its merits was my reason for being here, I'd probably be twitchy too.
Can we please just have our pre-KotFE SWTOR MMORPG back?

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Styxx
09.06.2012 , 12:55 AM | #79
Quote: Originally Posted by GalacticKegger View Post
Funny stuff. Glad you made such a concerted effort to prove that I defend a game. I think. Fortunately for me all I have to do to prove my point is log in and play. Feathers are optional. Oh wait ... unless you care to join me (usually on Drooga's, but I have alts on Jedi Covenant and Begeren) I'd be the only one amongst we two who can verify what I see. Since the odds of that ever happening are (metaphorically speaking) zilch, I suppose it really doesn't matter.

If folks choose to express their support for something by publicly tearing it a new tweeter, that's between them and their tweeter. I personally choose to express my support by paying and playing. Submitting tickets is the norm when I encounter issues, and I've posted my fair share of complaints in these forums. I just won't complain about the same thing a hundred times; nor will I carpet bomb the game, the developer or the community in pubescent angst. I'm adult like that.
I am not playing on US servers, because I am from Europe.

You have 26 days of play time remaining. When your play time runs out, you will be billed automatically. I am still supporting the game , but I won`t commit to anything longer than 30 days.

And I wasn`t trying to prove you are defending the game. Just struck me, because I was having a strange feeling I have seen that outfit before. It`s surely funny to see the origin of at least one armor. It`s just I would have expected more creativity, not copy paste of some medieval hunter suit.
Quote: Originally Posted by John Riccitiello View Post
When you are six hours into playing Battlefield and you run out of ammo in your clip, and we ask you for a dollar to reload, you're really not very price sensitive at that point in time...We're not gouging, but we're charging.

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GalacticKegger
09.06.2012 , 01:00 AM | #80
Quote: Originally Posted by Styxx View Post
I am not playing on US servers, because I am from Europe.

You have 26 days of play time remaining. When your play time runs out, you will be billed automatically. I am still supporting the game
Then why the charade of convincing someone that the game is so flawed you would throttle it with consistency and aplomb? Why not try and help those who are here to see if the community is decent enough for them try the game actually feel at home? Or is making a concerted effort to chase people away the new method of being cool?
Can we please just have our pre-KotFE SWTOR MMORPG back?