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Top 3 GTN annoyances


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MrSchmo
08.28.2012 , 01:32 PM | #51
I have just one that annoys me. When someone crafts 20 of the same exact item and expects to sell them to 20 different people over 2 days.
That's why they call it space, cause there is so much of it.

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DLBoyd
08.28.2012 , 03:37 PM | #52
It would be nice if you could sort by stack size for high cost items.

If someone is selling the same mats at a too low price, then buy them and resell them in larger stacks for a profit.

...Buy low/sell high.

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Raora
08.28.2012 , 04:22 PM | #53
Quote: Originally Posted by asbalana View Post
True. Since reading your posts, I've started to spin through about ten items every time I go to list something on the GTN. It is amazing how many grossly underpriced items that can be found. On my server the Paste goes for about 1,200 to 1,500 credits a unit. I usually list at 1,399 per. If I go to list and see someone has listed 40 units at 158 per, I will indeed snap it up. That is well under production cost. I will then relist at my standard price = easy profit. I don't play the market to look for bargains to relist, but only a dummy would not take advantage of what is there. ---- Oh look, someone listed 99 Hypertechs for 12,500 credits, gee they go for about 1,000 each, I think that I will wait until they sell before I list mine at 1,000 and not be a bad guy and buy the stack and then relist - yeh right, lol.

Truth is that there are a small number of people who do not understand pricing or who do but list very low for their own reasons. The problem with the swtor economy is that it is not dynamic and vibrant, but limps along. A few people who list at a low price can actually kill the pricing of a mat because buyers see the low price and start to think that is what the pricing should be and will hold off from buying at a 'reasonable" price. Yes, reasonable is subjective but if something s(other than throw away unwanted junk) ells for less than the production cost + GTN cut + small profit then I call that unreasonable. To me the resellers help the economy greatly. They clear away the underpriced stuff out and help keep a floor under pricing.
I do this 5-6 times a day when I do not have to work. On average I spend around 500k per day buying up lower priced materials which in turn makes me 1 to 2.5 million.

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Darth-Rammstein
08.29.2012 , 04:14 AM | #54
I haven't really used the gtn since I came over from my old server to the new big server but now that I viewed items such as gathered material from bioanalysis or tech parts I look at the prices and I'm shocked...people are selling them sooo cheap it's not even worth my time to sell mine. I did a mission for one of my crew skills looked at what the items were going for on the gtn and honest to god people were selling them CHEAPER than the cost of the mission to obtain them. I don't know if it's just too many people undercutting or the larger population giving a whole lot more supply but I went from making little money on the gtn to none...infact I'd be losing money if I started selling them at those prices.
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Raora
08.29.2012 , 08:36 PM | #55
Quote: Originally Posted by Darth-Rammstein View Post
I haven't really used the gtn since I came over from my old server to the new big server but now that I viewed items such as gathered material from bioanalysis or tech parts I look at the prices and I'm shocked...people are selling them sooo cheap it's not even worth my time to sell mine. I did a mission for one of my crew skills looked at what the items were going for on the gtn and honest to god people were selling them CHEAPER than the cost of the mission to obtain them. I don't know if it's just too many people undercutting or the larger population giving a whole lot more supply but I went from making little money on the gtn to none...infact I'd be losing money if I started selling them at those prices.
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Grayseven
09.01.2012 , 02:27 AM | #56
Some rules of MMO Markets I have learned over the last decade plus...

If you want to sell small stacks, sell them in stack sizes people need. In other words, do your research. People who are leveling up a crafting skill don't want to buy more than they need, but they also don't want to have to buy a bunch of singles when one click will get them exactly what they need.

If you are going to sell single stacks, only sell a few and price them at a HIGHER unit price than large stack sellers. People who only need one more unit of something to craft an item will pay a premium if they can avoid buying a bunch extra they don't need.

Items will almost always sell for a price lower than the market resource price. The exceptions are extremely rare items or items crafted with extremely rare/hard to get resources.

Resource prices are often over-inflated. The reason for this is entirely psychological in my opinion but what do I know, I'm not a psychologist.

No matter what you know about economics or how you feel things should be done (I'm talking to the time = money crowd here) there are large numbers of MMO players that simply DO NOT CARE about such things and feel money is money and they don't care if they are selling an item for a lower than normal price as long as they are making a profit. Nothing you can say will change this view, just grit your teeth and hope they run out of stuff to sell quickly.

If things you are selling aren't selling for the price you are asking, either your price is too high or there are just way too many people selling the same thing. You are better off selling prototype augment materials to the vendor than thinking someone will buy them in stacks of 99 no matter what the price...unless you are selling for less than vendor price...but you wouldn't do that, would you?

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TangoAlpahaZulu
09.05.2012 , 07:03 PM | #57
Something I would love to see on the GTN. I would love to track sellers. Some are very good and reasonable while others always under price things. It would just be useful.
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Loryk
09.05.2012 , 07:08 PM | #58
People who belive they can get 30k plus for their level 15 armor.

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Retrogame
09.06.2012 , 01:04 PM | #59
I tend to make characters that build stuff. Therefore, I tend to hoard materials. I'd rather manufacture items out of them than sell the raw materials. I build items for sale, for my Alts, and for friends and guildies.

So my top 3 annoyances...

1. Slicers that sell sliced tech parts and augment schematics for such a ridonkulously high price that no crafter in their right mind would ever buy those to manufacture augments. As a result, there's a drastic shortage of decently priced augments at all levels, but especially low levels. It makes it so you're much better off to just make an Alt that farms sliced tech for you than ever buy anything.

2. People that make items of all descriptions that are meant for starting characters then sell them for thousands and thousands of credits more than they are actually worth. This is just stupidity, because what you're trying for is people with a level 50 main character that has more money than brains, who is willing to give you 25K, even 50K for some item that their Alt will have outgrown in about 3 hours of questing. But if you're a new player, it means that you have no means of actually using the GTN to buy better gear for yourself because everything is too expensive.

3. People that sell crafitng missions for such an exhorbitant amount that it's foolish to ever consider buying them. Yes, artifact grade materials for crafting are rare and a pain to get the "hard" way unless you roll lucky. But if I can easily run 10-20 level 6 gathering missions myself for the price of one "rare" mission on the GTN, then something's wrong. In those 20 missions I'll get what I need plus a bunch of "blues" to make lots of stuff to build and sell.
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Raora
09.11.2012 , 01:44 PM | #60
WoW, just logged and there were only 11 pages of materials under bioanalysis. Usually there are 30+