This game could learn from SWG

Something like LOTRO housing system would be fine, although with much better housing decoration.

Alternately they could have specific housing instances where you can build where you want, but only XX house per instance.

Unfortunately SWTOR just isn't built (unless they make another planet that is) to have non-instanced housing.

Unfortunately SWTOR just isn't built (unless they make another planet that is) to have non-instanced housing.

Nobody can agree on which features those might be. The only nearly-universal one I've seen is the JTL space.

I couldn't agree more with you there. The planets in SWTOR are like hallways catered for leveling and the stories only -- it doesn't feel as adventurous, spontaneous and free as Star Wars Galaxies did.

What EQ or EQ2 style housing?

Unless you share your source.. Your numbers are fictional.. Simple as that..

When you actually pin down the people with the "SWG SUCKS!!!!1111" rhetoric, they tend to agree that actually most of the things I posted on my list would improve SWTOR.





Apparently you didn't even play SWG and you still somehow hated ever aspect of it......... it was a powerful game.

Um, its your own source....you posted the link to mmodata that very clearly shows that in 2003 when SWG launched, the global market for MMO's was very small. There were 2.5m people playing lineage. 450k playing EQ, 300k playing FFXI, 250k playing Ultima, 225k playing DAoC and thats it for MMOs with decent sub numbers.

So, out of a market of roughly 4million players, SWG managed to attract 300k. That is a good market share (~7.5%)

SW:TOR, by comparison, had at its peak 1.7mil players out of a market size of 100mil+. That is a poor market share (less than 2%).

So you see, the figures don't lie and SWG was in fact a success because it had a much greater market share than SW:TOR.
I wasnt including lineage, as it was an eastern release, thus excluding the 2.5 mil players.
Of course, this is all rubbish and you know it. Figures like this can be manipulated however you want. SWG had better market share than SW:TOR, more stable subscriber numbers for the first 2 years indicating consistant fun / content. If I could find the development costs for SWG then I'd bet they were less per subscriber than SW:TOR. You can manipulate numbers to make a point, but it doesn't make the point right. There is NOTHING at all to indicate that the game was a failure. The opposite in fact seems to be the case: the numbers indicate that SWG was a massive success!

I do, however, take your points on board. When SWG launched, it was a massively different market. The number of people with internet connections capable of supporting MMOs was much lower than now. The market was new and still very niche. In that time period, SWG was a success. With increased internet connectivity in the following years, the market widened. WoW changed the market and moved it from niche to mainstream. SWG did not survive the change in the market. I suspect if SWG launched today, it would be a failure.

However, please try to be objective. Whilst SWG was a vastly different game than SW:TOR and would not survive today, it *did* have many many features that were excellent by most peoples standards and if implemented properly would work amazingly well in today's market. Sandboxes in general are very good conceptually, however in 99% of cases they are implemented poorly so the mass market wont accept them. SW:TOR could definitely learn from SWG. SW:TOR should not copy SWG, never that, but it should learn from it, use some of the core concepts and make this game better.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2003/10/...xies-interview

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History...r_online_games

http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...ments-on-Swtor


Read them if you want a history lesson, I could go on and on and on and on if I wished.

You basically have no idea what you are talking about from any real experience, and you ride the bandwagon of lemmings.

Enjoy your read.