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And despite that it is doing mediocre at best sales wise Still you are correct server farms aren't nearly as expensive as they once were.

you do realize that GW2 has no subscription right? and that their cash shop isnt pay to win right?

that being said, how expensive do you think maintaining servers really is?

judging from the fact that GW2 is basically running itself off box sales alone, i presume maintaining servers arent as expensive as you think.

'm saying Bioware needs to start producing content that is worth our time or players will play Gw2 or MoP or some other game instead.

judging from the fact that GW2 is basically running itself off box sales alone, i presume maintaining servers arent as expensive as you think.

like all mmos sales dip, player base level out, its normal, swtor isnt dying, as of may of this year swtor was between 400k and 900k.

games like EVE are at 360k.

we're doing just fine people.

like all mmos sales dip, player base level out, its normal, swtor isnt dying, as of may of this year swtor was between 400k and 900k.

games like EVE are at 360k.

we're doing just fine people.

First off, that's just for the UK, not global.

Secondly, I'm not sure how you get "mediocre" out of "the second largest non-World of Warcraft PC MMO launch in UK history".

/signed

Instead of focusing on the subscribers they have and making us happy, they're chasing this mythical f2p crowd. Many of us our mmo vets and have been down this road before. The people running the game now are DELUDED.

Often, Lotro is cited as an example of a game that succeeded under f2p. Really? How come no one from my lotro guild still plays that game and they were die hard Tolkien fans? Instead of a community, you get an endless stream of new players who all play for a few weeks and disappear without spending a dime. Remaining subscribers quit because of the annoying gating that DOES affect them even when Turbine said it wouldn't. EA/Bioware will try to monetize us beyond the sub, too. If you don't think so, you are naive.

Newsflash, there is a LOT of competition in the mmo space now. Much more than when lotro went f2p. Does anyone at Bioware know the saying, "A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush"? Once the community sees what f2p really is, they will bail. I hope I'm wrong but when you've been burned before...

Finally, I'm so sick of the trumped out "40% of players say they quit because of sub" so they want f2p. Do you think we're stupid, Jeff Hickman? Our FRIENDS quit and told us why. They're not going to pay a sub for no content. If you can't figure that out, how do you have a job? At best you're clueless, at worst, you're a liar.

If you make the content, players will come. F2p is not the answer. It's also ***-backwards how it's being implemented. Give away the best content in the game and then try to charge for the mediocre end game. This game had great potential but it's downfall was mismanagement.