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krystianswtor
09.02.2012 , 11:30 AM | #71
Quote: Originally Posted by Imhotep View Post
Ok I was almost on board with you until this. SWGEMU is available. It is fairly well populated but the community is horrid. Galaxies would not kill TOR. This is not and never will be SWG2. Player bounties are forced pvp that wouldnt work unless you can completely opt out of the system.

I agree with the fact that ships should be decoratable (made up word?)

I understand your trying to make suggestions to improve the game but to say that Galaxies would outperform TOR is foolish. Go play the EMU if you doubt me. I did and as soon as I maxed my template I got bored and quit.
this post i made was actually unserious and just to piss someone off who was pissing me off. so dont take it seriously. while i dont think swtor would die if swg would come out in a more refined version ( swgemu doesnt count ) , it would attract thousands of players towards playing the "newer swg" rather than swtor.

but my post about swtor dying wasnt serious in the first place so dont mind it

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Imhotep
09.02.2012 , 11:34 AM | #72
Quote: Originally Posted by krystianswtor View Post
this post i made was actually unserious and just to piss someone off who was pissing me off. so dont take it seriously. while i dont think swtor would die if swg would come out in a more refined version ( swgemu doesnt count ) , it would attract thousands of players towards playing the "newer swg" rather than swtor.

but my post about swtor dying wasnt serious in the first place so dont mind it
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Vandicus
09.02.2012 , 11:37 AM | #73
Quote: Originally Posted by krystianswtor View Post
Feeling powerful and being technically overpowered with abilities are 2 different things. You can leave the thread now
If you can't feel powerful with the current Jedi classes, and are asking them to feel powerful, you are asking them to be buffed in comparison with other classes or for cinematics to make them seem more powerful. As SWG wasn't a cinematic heavy game, I can only imagine its the former. Even if you mean the latter, the game does have plenty of "Look how powerful in the force I am" moments for Jedi and Sith classes.

Quote: Originally Posted by krystianswtor View Post
this post i made was actually unserious and just to piss someone off who was pissing me off. so dont take it seriously. while i dont think swtor would die if swg would come out in a more refined version ( swgemu doesnt count ) , it would attract thousands of players towards playing the "newer swg" rather than swtor.

but my post about swtor dying wasnt serious in the first place so dont mind it
Most everyone here has tried to engage you in constructive conversation. You have either told them to leave the thread or, as you just admitted, tried to troll them. Honestly you're making legitimate suggestions from people who are using SWG for ideas look bad. A supporter of a cause who acts immature, demands silence from any questioners and critics, and does not even provide a thorough outline of what they propose to implement does more to hurt their cause than help it.
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krystianswtor
09.02.2012 , 11:40 AM | #74
Quote: Originally Posted by Vandicus View Post
Most everyone here has tried to engage you in constructive conversation. You have either told them to leave the thread or, as you just admitted, tried to troll them. Honestly you're making legitimate suggestions from people who are using SWG for ideas look bad. A supporter of a cause who acts immature, demands silence from any questioners and critics, and does not even provide a thorough outline of what they propose to implement does more to hurt their cause than help it.
right... anyway , i have updated the orignal post with many good quotes from very good constructive posters which remain on topic

PS: You are one person who I told to leave the thread , and there was another person I was trolling. Thats 2 people that dont deserve to post in this thread out of everyone else. Your the minority

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Vandicus
09.02.2012 , 11:45 AM | #75
Quote: Originally Posted by krystianswtor View Post
right... anyway , i have updated the orignal post with many good quotes from very good constructive posters which remain on topic
I have remained on topic. I have discussed why I feel certain particular elements that have been suggested by other posters from SWG should not be implemented. Most of the features from SWG that I personally support being implemented have their own threads elsewhere on the forums.


You continue to define constructive as "people who agree with me", I note that you include NO criticisms of particular ideas in your list of constructive posts on the first post. In order to have a constructive conversation about any particular game feature, both the PROS AND CONS must be discussed. Refusing to listen to the other side and asking them to please sit down and be quiet is not constructive.

Your level of arrogance is so absurd that its almost laughable.
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krystianswtor
09.02.2012 , 11:46 AM | #76
Quote: Originally Posted by Vandicus View Post
I have remained on topic. I have discussed why I feel certain particular elements that have been suggested by other posters from SWG should not be implemented. Most of the features from SWG that I personally support being implemented have their own threads elsewhere on the forums.


You continue to define constructive as "people who agree with me", I note that you include NO criticisms of particular ideas in your list of constructive posts on the first post. In order to have a constructive conversation about any particular game feature, both the PROS AND CONS must be discussed. Refusing to listen to the other side and asking them to please sit down and be quiet is not constructive.

Your level of arrogance is so absurd that its almost laughable.
Quote: Originally Posted by krystianswtor View Post
PS: You are one person who I told to leave the thread , and there was another person I was trolling. Thats 2 people that dont deserve to post in this thread out of everyone else. Your the minority

Please stay on topic from now on

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Sarfux
09.02.2012 , 11:47 AM | #77
Quote: Originally Posted by MajikMyst View Post
SWG had at most just over 300k subscriptions.. 100k or less in the last 4 years it was live.. There isn't much SWTOR can learn from SWG..

At best it was a nich game for a nich group of players..

I have no desire for player housing.. I see no point in decorating a house.. That seems more like a feature for 'The Sims'..

I have no desire for chat bubbles.. To me they are useless.. They simply serve no purpose.. If someone wants to talk to me.. They can /whisper.. Typically speaking, I have general turned off.. Still.. I would prefer chat to be confined to a little box, rather than all over my screen..

The list goes on.. SWG was not wildly popular and this game was never meant to be SWG 2.0..

http://www.mmodata.net/
Just because they are put into the game for people to use them, doesn't mean YOU have to use them. Everything should be there for the mmo player to use and like Doesn't mean you have to use it.
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Nastynas
09.02.2012 , 11:48 AM | #78
Quote: Originally Posted by Cailahan View Post
At its height, SWG had around 300k subs (I think the highest ever posted may have been 350k) and considering it was a Pre-WoW MMO, this made it one of the largest MMOs around.

It also wasn't bleeding subs as much as every basher claims, it stayed steady for two years and SOE even claimed on the forums around Publish 24 (1 Publish before the NGE) that the games subs were on the rise. This was because they had actually became dedicated to fixing the game. The whole bleeding subs drastically thing came after the NGE when the games subs dropped to less than 100k. The same Devs who claimed the subs were rising during the CU reversed their stance so they could justify the NGE (which has now been debunked by many Ex-Devs)
They were losing 10k a month. Now if you can show me a developer saying that isn't true I'd be interested.
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Vandicus
09.02.2012 , 11:53 AM | #79
Quote: Originally Posted by LordArtemis View Post
They need to be expanded. In fact they could alien dialog to add cut scenes, droid sounds, even use some standard lines and answers (the game has a massive amount of VO after all) to spice them up.

Many of these topics probably deserve their own thread because of difficultly in implementing them without destroying balance. When well thought out and critiqued a good deal of these could probably be refined to the point where they are balanced and implementable. Fortunately some are small enough they can be easily discussed without needing to theorycraft a system.

About the mission terminals, what do you feel could be expanded? Are you saying we need more mission terminals in leveling quests? End game? Dailies?
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krystianswtor
09.02.2012 , 11:56 AM | #80
Quote: Originally Posted by Sarfux View Post
Just because they are put into the game for people to use them, doesn't mean YOU have to use them. Everything should be there for the mmo player to use and like Doesn't mean you have to use it.
I agree. Chat bubbles could be implemented and a lot of people would like this mechanic. If someone wouldnt like this they could simply turn the chat bubbles option off. Satysfying those who wouldnt like this option. Personally this is one of those features that i wouldnt mind but there are a dozen more important ones.