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Matt Brobmerg interview on free-to-play

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Matt Brobmerg interview on free-to-play

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Rogoo
08.31.2012 , 05:32 PM | #51
"Do you think you'll make more money converting to this model?

I don't know."

What the hell ?!
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Vandicus
08.31.2012 , 05:37 PM | #52
Quote: Originally Posted by Rogoo View Post
"Do you think you'll make more money converting to this model?

I don't know."

What the hell ?!
He's not a financial analyst. He's not qualified to answer that question. If he did make such a statement it would either be a complete guess, or fed to him by marketing handlers.

That question is the rough equivalent to asking a celebrity what they think should be done about an economic recession.
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Andryah
08.31.2012 , 05:44 PM | #53
Quote: Originally Posted by Vandicus View Post
He's not a financial analyst. He's not qualified to answer that question. If he did make such a statement it would either be a complete guess, or fed to him by marketing handlers.

That question is the rough equivalent to asking a celebrity what they think should be done about an economic recession.
Correct statement.

Clearly they believe they will increase the revenue, as there is no other reason to convert to Freemium for an MMO. He would be fired if he made ANY statements about the financial aspects of the change, as he would expose the company to shareholder liability.
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Andryah
08.31.2012 , 05:46 PM | #54
Quote: Originally Posted by SOULCASTER View Post
I think my favorite line is:

Do you think you'll make more money converting to this model?
"I don't know."
see my comment above.

You folks really need to gain at least a modest understanding of shareholder liability as it pertains to questions like the one posed to him.
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Andryah
08.31.2012 , 05:52 PM | #55
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthTHC View Post
I believe 40% of the people cited the monthly fee as the reason they left. However, the correct interpretation of that is that the game is not worth the sub fee, not that the player would refuse to pay it regardless.

Once you have the correct interpretation, you then can make the right adjustment. One adjustment would be to implement content and features that would make the game worth it. Another adjustment is to lower the subscription fee.
Let's be honest here, nobody on this forum has the data needed to make ANY interpretations as to what/why with any degree of accuracy.

That leaves you, once again, with opinion, presented as fact. Which, puts you on equal footing with the entire forum membership, myself included. The difference in our posts being, some of us enjoy the game and don't share your need for what is IMO an ongoing series of non-constructive (and sometimes hyperbolic) criticsims of the game and the game producer.

Besides, this entire thread is largely a rehash of a developer bash fest from last week, isn't it?
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Hestis
08.31.2012 , 06:32 PM | #56
Quote: Originally Posted by Kubernetic View Post
It wasn't large, and there's no guarantee as to how many of those attendees were even interested in video games.

GamesCom was literally 11 times larger in population, with a far greater spread of media personnel there to report on the attendees (and thus provide press coverage for the games represented). The press attendance alone at GamesCom was estimated to be approximately equivalent to a full ONE SIXTH of the attendance at Celebration.

You actually had a terrible analysis.
Well, I've actually been to a couple of Celebrations before. Yeah, they're not the size of the larger conventions, but once again, this is the core target demographic in one place. Read the article, he specifically talks about targeting Star Wars fans. Whether they are gamers isn't only irrelevant, but it gives you the chance to grab the attention of those who wouldn't be at a gaming con. I never said they shouldn't go to Gamescon, it would be just as much of a poor decision for them to ignore that.

It's really not a hard concept to grasp. When a large number of your targeted demographic (once again, read the article, every single mention of who they're going after is Star Wars fans, not gamers), gathers in one place, you do everything you can to have a presence there. Yes, Celebration may not be the largest con around, but it is the largest Star Wars con (at least in the U.S.).

You actually made a terrible comparison, and would seem to have terrible business sense.

And anyway, my complaint is moot, as from another thread on here, they did have at least a small presence at Celebration, with a display for the game.

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Vandicus
08.31.2012 , 06:39 PM | #57
Quote: Originally Posted by Hestis View Post
Well, I've actually been to a couple of Celebrations before. Yeah, they're not the size of the larger conventions, but once again, this is the core target demographic in one place. Read the article, he specifically talks about targeting Star Wars fans. Whether they are gamers isn't only irrelevant, but it gives you the chance to grab the attention of those who wouldn't be at a gaming con. I never said they shouldn't go to Gamescon, it would be just as much of a poor decision for them to ignore that.
Very few Star Wars fans who aren't gamers will start playing an MMO just because its Star Wars. It didn't work for SWG, it won't work for SWTOR. The target demographic can only realistically be stated as gamers who are also Star Wars fans. Not simply Star Wars fans in general.

If the goal were to bring in people who weren't gamers to an MMO simply on the basis that its Star Wars, the target demographic would be people who weren't interested in SWG but are interested in Star Wars. This is probably a very small group of people. If "Star Wars MMO" was enough to get them to play, they would've been playing SWG and continued on to this game already, leaving very few potential customers to acquire.
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MbaxterBeau
08.31.2012 , 07:13 PM | #58
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
Let's be honest here, nobody on this forum has the data needed to make ANY interpretations as to what/why with any degree of accuracy.

That leaves you, once again, with opinion, presented as fact. Which, puts you on equal footing with the entire forum membership, myself included. The difference in our posts being, some of us enjoy the game and don't share your need for what is IMO an ongoing series of non-constructive (and sometimes hyperbolic) criticsims of the game and the game producer.

Besides, this entire thread is largely a rehash of a developer bash fest from last week, isn't it?
No it's a discussion on things that frustrate some of the people that play and played this game. What is a rehash is your presence in threads speaking to the OP and commenters like you are the CEO of Blizzard and the only person who is educated enough to form an opinion about this game or any other mmo is you and if others disagree with you then they are obviously wrong or uneducated.
On a positive note if the devs keep on the current path they have been on you might be one of the few people playing this game. If that happens you can post and respond to your own posts and nobody could be "hyperbolic".
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Soluss
08.31.2012 , 07:21 PM | #59
Quote: Originally Posted by MbaxterBeau View Post
No it's a discussion on things that frustrate some of the people that play and played this game. What is a rehash is your presence in threads speaking to the OP and commenters like you are the CEO of Blizzard and the only person who is educated enough to form an opinion about this game or any other mmo is you and if others disagree with you then they are obviously wrong or uneducated.
On a positive note if the devs keep on the current path they have been on you might be one of the few people playing this game. If that happens you can post and respond to your own posts and nobody could be "hyperbolic".
Well said... but she would still have Urael and jarajarloves too. Maybe the 3 of them can save this game with all their superior knowledge as to why it failed.... oh wait, I forgot, it didnt fail.
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Vandicus
08.31.2012 , 07:21 PM | #60
Quote: Originally Posted by MbaxterBeau View Post
No it's a discussion on things that frustrate some of the people that play and played this game. What is a rehash is your presence in threads speaking to the OP and commenters like you are the CEO of Blizzard and the only person who is educated enough to form an opinion about this game or any other mmo is you and if others disagree with you then they are obviously wrong or uneducated.
On a positive note if the devs keep on the current path they have been on you might be one of the few people playing this game. If that happens you can post and respond to your own posts and nobody could be "hyperbolic".
No this is a bashing thread. Read the OP and the first page of posts.

Also read the post Andryah was responding to. Her response logically replied that DarthTHC had nothing to back his claims whatsoever about the survey data that Bioware has collected.

Before you start accusing people of having a sense of superiority, please at least read what they're saying and why they're saying it.
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