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[Guide] Reverse Engineering

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[Guide] Reverse Engineering

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finelinebob
07.12.2012 , 05:19 PM | #411
Quote: Originally Posted by Yrneh View Post
I don't know if this has been asked but is it possible to learn artifact quality mods/enhancements/armoring by RE'ing artifact quality items? If not, is it possible to learn artifact quality items without learning the premium by RE'ing prototype items you can buy at the GTN?
I think the short answer is no. There are no item mod schematics that I know of -- maybe someone else can chime in here -- that begin as Prototypes. Therefore, they all follow the simple Premium to Prototype to Artifact path and once they are Artifact quality, there are no further upgrades. Furthermore it's important to remember that as item mods, they follow the Linear progression for RE: you can only get one Prototype from the Premium, and only one Artifact from the Prototype.

... although, on a second read of what you asked, I can't say I know the full answer. Let me rephrase it for everyone else: If you buy someone else's crafted item mod and it is for a skill you know, can you successfully RE a Prototype item for which you do not know the Premium version and get the subsequent Artifact version, without ever having the Base or Tier 1 schematics?

Is that what you were asking?
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theStirge
07.12.2012 , 09:45 PM | #412
Quote: Originally Posted by finelinebob View Post
... although, on a second read of what you asked, I can't say I know the full answer. Let me rephrase it for everyone else: If you buy someone else's crafted item mod and it is for a skill you know, can you successfully RE a Prototype item for which you do not know the Premium version and get the subsequent Artifact version, without ever having the Base or Tier 1 schematics?

Is that what you were asking?
If that's what he's asking, the answer is yes, at least for barrels. I usually RE'd my way to purple barrels as soon as I learned the green schematic, but a couple of times I got a blue as a quest reward that I hadn't learned the green of and RE'd them and got the purple version, then went to the trainer later and learned the green version, and then had to RE my way to the blue schematic.

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MasterTankar
07.23.2012 , 06:34 PM | #413
It would appear that Redoubt prefix items only have four new items from reverse engineering. Since the tooltip after making the General, exatitude, veracity, and anti-armour versions says no research available.

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Craftamancer
07.24.2012 , 02:13 PM | #414
Quote: Originally Posted by finelinebob View Post
I think the short answer is no. There are no item mod schematics that I know of -- maybe someone else can chime in here -- that begin as Prototypes. Therefore, they all follow the simple Premium to Prototype to Artifact path and once they are Artifact quality, there are no further upgrades. Furthermore it's important to remember that as item mods, they follow the Linear progression for RE: you can only get one Prototype from the Premium, and only one Artifact from the Prototype.

... although, on a second read of what you asked, I can't say I know the full answer. Let me rephrase it for everyone else: If you buy someone else's crafted item mod and it is for a skill you know, can you successfully RE a Prototype item for which you do not know the Premium version and get the subsequent Artifact version, without ever having the Base or Tier 1 schematics?

Is that what you were asking?
There are now schematics for some artifact level mods. (I have a link to a screenshot of the advanced agile mod 24 in my cybertech guide, courtesy of Copperhamster). His dropped from EV trash, but I suspect that it is simply a rare world drop off of high level mobs.

Black Hole/Campaign gear's mods and enhancements can be RE'd for schematics, as can the implants and earpieces.

The armorings found in black hole/campaign armor cannot be RE'd, but the type 26 (ilvl 61) ones dropped in Denova as boss drops can be. I'm uncertain whether or not crafted type 26 armorings can be RE'd to learn a new pattern.

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Slaign
07.30.2012 , 04:19 PM | #415
Hello everyone. You may have noticed (or not) that I haven't updated this guide in some time. I haven't played since 1.2 and although I am planning to play again, I won't be putting the necessary time in to keep this guide updated.

As it is, it hasn't been updated since the 1.2 revision.

While the core information in the guide should remain relatively relevant, details are likely already out of date and will only grow more so.

As such, I'm opening it up to the community. If anyone wants to take any part of the guide for any sort of use, go for it. I'm all for someone using my guide as a base to continue updating it as needed.

Good luck!

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Macroeconomics
08.31.2012 , 02:56 PM | #416
I have a Cybertech with skill 400. He can RE engineer rank 25 armorings and rank 26 armorings. But he has the "No research" possible probability of getting the recipe. These are armorings which are not slot specific and were dropped by ops bosses. Are there some preliminary recipes that must be learned first before I can successfully learn recipes by RE'ing rank 25+ items?

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jamescloutier
08.31.2012 , 05:44 PM | #417
Quote: Originally Posted by Macroeconomics View Post
I have a Cybertech with skill 400. He can RE engineer rank 25 armorings and rank 26 armorings. But he has the "No research" possible probability of getting the recipe. These are armorings which are not slot specific and were dropped by ops bosses. Are there some preliminary recipes that must be learned first before I can successfully learn recipes by RE'ing rank 25+ items?
Can't learn 25s at all.

For the 26s make sure they are drops and not crafted by someone else. If they are crafted by someone else then you can not learn it. You don't need to do anything else prior to learning them.

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Khevar
08.31.2012 , 05:47 PM | #418
Quote: Originally Posted by Macroeconomics View Post
I have a Cybertech with skill 400. He can RE engineer rank 25 armorings and rank 26 armorings. But he has the "No research" possible probability of getting the recipe. These are armorings which are not slot specific and were dropped by ops bosses. Are there some preliminary recipes that must be learned first before I can successfully learn recipes by RE'ing rank 25+ items?
I've seen crafted 26 armorings for sale on the GTN, but I've never seen crafted 25s.

To the best of my knowledge these can't be RE'ed for a schematic, but I could be mistaken.

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Darth_Precursor
10.02.2012 , 06:11 PM | #419
Okay, so i'm an Atrificer, and have a question

Can I craft Truthseeker, reverse engineer it, and learn a Redoubt version of it? Or is it impossible to do this with crafted oranges?
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Estelindis
10.02.2012 , 08:18 PM | #420
I have never seen a chance to learn an improved schematic on an orange item that I have crafted.