I hope BW/EA sticks with this game for years to come....

I guarantee you EA/Bioware will stick with this game for a year(s) to come....

...the player base won't however.

Well I dont disagree with your points... But the majority of the community is use to lame walkthrough flashpoints that by the time they start reaching these HM Ec's and whatnot. Its too much of a learning curve.

The concepts behind HM EC and SM EC are simple at best, but the majority of players aren't ready for this content.

For us hardcore PvE'rs its not alot of content, and the guilds that have completed HM EC are scratching their heads.

So do I...so do I.

I'm sorry for the next bit, but I have to get this off my chest.

It just pains me that it seems like this game had a target painted on it's back from the moment it hit the shelves. From players to gaming journalist sites, it seems like so much, too much, is against this game.

It's getting depressing and disheartening hearing the defining cackles of those who are just waiting for things to get really bad, and screeching with glee at even the smallest of mistakes. I'm not talking about normal MMO gripes, I'm talking a concerted effort, a never ending wave of un-needed doom and gloom.

TOR is getting stomped on, over and over again. It's not getting a fair shake, if it ever got one to begin with. It makes me ashamed to call myself a Gamer, or MMO player, seeing how this game is being so unduly reviled.

I wish TOR could be left alone, alone to the people who appreciate it, and who enjoy it....who play it.

I have never played WoW and I still think this game sux SWG had so much more going for it even with its out dated graphics the game play was still so much better this was fail from day 1

Let me explain a few things.

When people make an MMO, its for a large audience. So when swtor has only a few people that liked it, its as if BW lied to EA investors saying this is a game that MMO players would like. Its meant to draw in a crowd of pvp players and pve players. They missed the mark on pvp players. So when only a few people like swtor... its a problem. Its not someones personal project in their garage, that they put together in their spare time as a hobby.

Its a good game.

But the MMO part is lacking as well. If it wasn't an MMO with millions of dollars of investment, or a SW game that sets certain expectations coming from SWG as well, or even Kotor expectations of mini games, then... the expectations would certainly be different.

The reaction is all based on expectations and on the set standards established by other devs in MMOs and games in general. ( expectation of NPC movement, open world pvp, mini games, pazaak etc)

To a lot, swtor in design missed some great opportunities which is bad design overall and bad investment of too much story, and bad engine capabilities... that for such a largely hyped game, SW I.P., and a large budget people were expecting great things, and its not as great. So, that is why. Its as if they only called it a AAA MMO to over hype the game to cover their cost with $15 a month, but focused too much on lvling, and not enough on pvp. ANd people dont generally pay $15 a month for single player leveling experiences, so that is why it would feel over hyped as an MMO to 'justify' that $15 a month.

i think this is a good stabil game. and if you like star wars you gonnna like this.
dunno why ppl are complaining.