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Developer Update – Terror from Beyond

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Developer Update – Terror from Beyond
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ElitehunterDS
08.30.2012 , 05:43 PM | #41
Quote: Originally Posted by Vandicus View Post
There you go. Very possible they could delay it since its not on PTS yet.
They also said Nightmare EC was for August, see how that went.
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Maxumus
08.30.2012 , 05:48 PM | #42
Quote: Originally Posted by Vandicus View Post
Good catch. Now the question is how in the world did he survive? Did the dread masters somehow bring him back to life>
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Vandicus
08.30.2012 , 05:51 PM | #43
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Ah, thanks for the explanation, I'll go youtube it. Despite having completed all the ops I've never run them in a group that was "seeing the sights" so to speak so I haven't seen any of the cutscenes. Only a week ago I had to ask a guildmate why we were on Denova fighting a trandoshan.
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Maxumus
08.30.2012 , 05:59 PM | #44
Quote: Originally Posted by Vandicus View Post
Ah, thanks for the explanation, I'll go youtube it. Despite having completed all the ops I've never run them in a group that was "seeing the sights" so to speak so I haven't seen any of the cutscenes. Only a week ago I had to ask a guildmate why we were on Denova fighting a trandoshan.
You can pick up the quest and after you clear reenter before the ops group disbands to turn it in. That is what most people I have run with have done.
Or if you want the cutscenes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8KMItTCkPU for Repubs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9pL...eature=related for imperials

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Sewerus
08.30.2012 , 06:01 PM | #45
Quote: Originally Posted by Vandicus View Post
No, there's no way he's still alive.

Revan comes to mind as there's the theory that he teleported away rather than dying, but I believe him not being happy to see you would be somewhat strange from Pub side.
If you would check wookieepedia you know that he survived and retreated somewhere
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Meglivorn
08.30.2012 , 06:03 PM | #46
Quote: Originally Posted by Thoffs View Post
Good update, can't wait to see this on test.

What loot type will drop from Terror From Beyond story mode? I have my guesses/assumptions that is based on what others have speculated (i.e., campaign gear), but I would like to hear it from a developer.
That's my question also. Guess rakata since that drops from previous story modes or black hole. But Explosive Conflict story mode also needed that.
So some clearence would be fine.
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Vandicus
08.30.2012 , 06:03 PM | #47
Thanks for the links Maxumus.


Quote: Originally Posted by Sewerus View Post
If you would check wookieepedia you know that he survived and retreated somewhere
My statement there was a joke. The line "There's no way he could possibly have survived that" or something along those lines is a cliche, to the extent that saying it is akin to "jinxing" the situation so to speak, such that whoever is supposedly dead almost invariably comes back.
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matapat
08.30.2012 , 06:07 PM | #48
Quote: Originally Posted by Vandicus View Post
Teaming up to fight Cthulu with special Gree technology mechanics isn't quite the same thing as gang banging Illidan.
Teaming up and fighting space C'thun/Yogg'Saron instead. Totally original!

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Vandicus
08.30.2012 , 06:11 PM | #49
Quote: Originally Posted by matapat View Post
Teaming up and fighting space C'thun/Yogg'Saron instead. Totally original!
Yep, just like all the mobs in Rakghoul Conflicts.

Personally though I feel that grouping up to fight a dragon/god/elder evil is much more reasonable than ganging up to fight a single person.
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Mavery
08.30.2012 , 06:33 PM | #50
Quote: Originally Posted by lexiekaboom View Post
When you zone out of it do you get a error message preventing you to zone back in?

Are all the monsters set up such that only armour mitigation maters and shadow / assassin tanks are still worthless?

Does every monster in the zone have a mechanic that makes melee classes much less desirable then ranged?

Will everything that drops be worthless due to messed up itemization which, although admitting you messed up, you refuse to fix?

Man, 6 months ago I would have been so happy with a new zone, but now it's just a depressing death keel which is going to be broken and worthless like all the current content
You don't understand how mitigation works, clearly.

I'm going to explain this very clearly: mobs have 4 types of mitigation: energy, kinetic, elemental and internal. The damage reduction number you see on your character sheet is only relevant for energy and kinetic damage. Internal and elemental damage mitigation is NOT linked to damage reduction. Fact: Shadows have the highest internal/elemental damage reduction in the game.

So what does this mean? Some bosses only use iternal/elemental. Some use a mix of all four. Some only use kinetic/energy. Every single attack that Stormcaller does is internal/elemental. For that boss, Shadow is the best tank -by far-. Savage Wounding is a huge source of Kephess' damage. Guess what? Internal/elemental.

We are not useless. You have an argument if bosses do nothing but kinetic / energy.

But guess what? That isn't the case.

I can't wait for the new Op.

edit: More data to prove my point:

In my guild's last clear of EC HM, Zorn did a total of 591,489 damage to the raid. Only 81,323 of that was kinetic. That approximately 13.74% of his damage.

13.74%.

Everything else is internal / elemental.Which the Shadow/Assassin mitigates better than VG or Guardian.

So how are we worthless, exactly?