Content or Not Content?

WHAT! i really don't think you understood what i was saying, where pray tell i said i was not interested in discussing the topic of this thread?

As far as I'm concerned content equals something new to do, whether its something you like or not.

New WZ's are content, as they're a new map with new game mode mechanics.
New Ops and FPs are content.
Events are sort of content. They're content that has a limited amount of time to complete.
New dailies is techinically content. Not good content, but it is.
New class stories is content, but very short, i.e. Don;t get much re playability from them. Expensive to make considering how much player time they consume.
New Minigames, maybe Pazaak or whatever is content. As is Space Missions.

Yes it's a story driven MMO. But still an MMO. Story is something extra that it brings to the table.

thank you for your post

I agree with this completely.

I love the story aspect of this MMO. I am not really that much into PVP. I will agree that the story aspect is the "meat and potatoes" of this game. That does not invalidate Warzones, Flashpoints or Ops as content. I still consider these items content.

I believe the important content is the class story content , but having said that I am (eventually) getting all 16 advanced classes to the end of the class story content , add the fact I out leveled the side stories mostly on the last two planets. So when the cap does increase I will have new side story content to play , even if it will be 16 x those last two planets side stories .

Let's hope we do get new class story content next year ( fingers crossed).

Cheers ,

BadOrb.

To be brutally honest

This game did NOT release with to small of content and the content updates have not been lacking compared to other releases

The problem is, and has been since easy mode WOW launched 8 years ago, is the content there is in game is to easy and you blitz through it to quickly!

It this game had launched with everything it has currently (plus Pazzaak and swoop racing as there really is NO EXCUSE for those not being in game at launch) but took out the current leveling curve speed and replaced it with the Legacy leveling curve to slow players down. This game would still be easily over 1.5 million active subs and the complaints about end game would not have surfaced (with any sort of backing) for at least the first 6-8 months after release.

Which would have stopped the mass lay offs, allowed the devs time to work on game update with out the panic button being pushed 2 weeks after release (when the first complaints started to roll in about end game).

Oh some of the whiny casuals (not to be mistaken for the reasonable casuals that dont want everything handed to them) would have thrown tantrums and probably quit game. But it wouldnt be a loss because those same whiny casuals threw a tantrum about end game and other items and quit already (mostly) anyways.
THEY NEVER WERE (or shouldnt have been) THE TARGET AUDIENCE FOR LONG TERM LOYALTY.
They simply are the new to MMORPG generation (last 8 years) that WOW brought in to the adversity of the genre health over all.

I really dont know why Developers cant see the on going patern thats been playing out time and time and time again since WOW released. Any game after WOW using the fast/sloppy/easy design mode has failed and our only hope now is EA gets the message thats slapping them all upside the head with a dead trout and stop giving it all away.

Hopefully TOR learns from RIFT and makes a huge arse expansion that redesigns the leveling and toughness of game while bringing in key design elements that should have been in place since day one!

Cause if we stay the course we going currently, even F2P will not save this game from disappearing a year to 2 years from now.

The content is fine, EA needs to slow things down so the content is meaningful and lasting is all! If people are physically able to max out (hacking and exploiting not counting of course) in under 3 months while playing 25-30 hours a week. Then the game simply is to fast and easy/

Add the virtual carrot for everyone to chase and history has proven already time and time and time again, the mass majority will chase it!

Give everything away and history has also proven the mass majority will max out, get bored, leave.

PAY ATTENTION TO HISTORY ALREADY EA!

I mostly agree with the OP. If nothing else was ever added to the game but instanced things like operations and warzones, then my desire to continue playing would plummet after finishing the story on my last alt, or sooner. I defintitely wouldn't continue paying monthly if that's all that was coming. To me, a new warzone isn't "content".

Not that those can't be fun, but in my view, doing that over and over and over, that's the grind to get better gear, that's the busy work they give us when there's not much else to do. What are you getting better gear for, or keeping busy with busy-work, if there's nothing to gear up for, or nothing else to look forward to, except more of the same?

Makeb will at least have a new planet arc, so it's something (and I consider it content), but I'd prefer chapter 4.

When I say this... (discussing that MMOs are made up of a wide variety of content types beyond story)...
And your response is this... (where you somehow infer that I would be happy with a severely limited number of content types "more maps for PVP and more Flashpoints" and then proceed into a complaint on people wanting more pvp)...
Well, forgive me, but it looked a lot like all you wanted to do was complain about pvp.

To this is where this and a few other MMOs fail, the WZs, OPs and PvP are so instnced they are not massive player at all but multiplayer minigames. Get me 20 -30 players in one of those instances and it'll be massive multiplayer.

I think PVP is great fun in this game, but the reason why i viewed PVP second to the Story is that you have to be lvl 10 before PVP can be engaged.

The only way to get to lvl 10 is via following the character story to lvl 10. Thus, i took this as meaning that the developer made story the key content of the game and everything was just there so player didn't get bored with just playing the story. and PVP gave the game the MMO in MMORPG. so additional content would be additional story.

i don't know, i am just talking out of my butt...