Patience wearing thin

I hope the quoted post makes some sort of sense. People do not speak for anyone other than themselves. I like the game, but I don't insist that everyone likes the game. If you don't like it, fine. Not a problem.. But don't speak for me.

Could you be any more dramatic?

What are you talking about?! Now you're accusing me of holding Bioware hostage?! Where do you come up with this crap and who do you think you are to accuse me of such a thing?! I have an opinion...agree or don't, but PLEASE...stop attacking me. You have made so many false accusations and false assumptions about me that, honestly, I don't need to defend myself from your foolishness any longer and I will simply report you when you do this from now on. NONE of what you wrote above is accurate. I've been very clear in MY enjoyment of the game, but I tend to look at the game as a WHOLE, not MY selfish little view of it. Debate the topic if you like, offer your opinion if you like Andryah, but please, stop making **edit** up.

Crumbs. I thought this was a discussion about expectations and stuff about the game, not a slagging off bout.

Why are you so angry?

The topic is peoples paitence wearing thin... and expanded upon by people being specific about it. The entire topic is kind of off topic, and probably should not be left open as it centers on peoples feelings rather than any constructive criticism of the game.

You made it clear in your post that you take the approach that when you leave a game, you do not look back, implying that you give no second chances and would never revisit a game after you leave it. That comes across as as a kind of hostile stance with the game company, hence my comment.

No personal attack was made. I was respectful in everything I said, and I actually encouraged you to take a different approach (if you choose to). But hey, report the post if you feel I attacked you.

I simply pointed out that you can take that approach, but it does come across as "ultimatum" style talk.... along the lines of "make it right Bioware or I leave and never come back". Which you are free to do if that is your choice.

Most of this post is irrelevant. I made a specific request with a specifically worded question, to which you completely failed to respond.

Let me repeat what I actually said, and then I'll leave it up to you as to whether you should try answering me again, or just ignore it and move on if you realize you have no valid or legitimate response.

Here goes:

Now, for bonus points, explain to me how this game is not an RPG. Otherwise, I don't understand the inclusion of the first sentence of your post.

Good luck!

Baseless and false accusations. I'm tired of that from you. You don't know me, I don't know you. I never said "I" was angry or that "I" wanted to take a break.

I'm speaking as a concerned player, not an angry or hate filled man, not someone who is bored or dislikes what he's doing. I honestly don't have time to do 1/4th the crap I want to do when I'm online. I'm fortunate to have a strong guild, even on our old server, and by far the most honest and giving players on any guild out there. I've met some of the finest people in this game, and others, who I genuinely miss when I'm unable to logon. Kids to grandparents, students to lawyers...their diversity and unmatched personalities are by far the greatest reason I enjoy this game.

I'm a very selfless person and I take great offense to your assumptions to the contrary. I'd rather someone else get the 'thing' they need than me. If someone wants to run something, I LIKE to help. If I'm in a FP and someone wants to watch the movies, I'm OK with that. I don't have millions, I don't have any real alts, I play 1 toon primarily and I'm having fun with him.

What I hear, what I see, bothers me, because the players MATTER to me. I see players logging in less and less. Players sick of running HM EC. Players sick of WZs. Players that have been legacy 50 and valor 100 for months now. Players who have their alts outfitted in campaign AND War Hero gear. Players who have so many freaking 50s they actually DELETE them to have something to do. There is a growing sense of boredom right now, and one I cannot ignore. It's not patience that's wearing thin, it's that all hope is fading.

You can sit there and assume the worst about me all you like Andryah, but my concern is not for MYSELF, it's for this game. I've seen it before, I understand how MMO populations come and go...this isn't that...this is more severe and it's coming from people who go out of their way to find a challenge, not 'entitled' twits like you accuse everyone asking for answers of being.

So really, read whatever the **edit** you want in my posts, just stop attributing your false reality to me. Comment on yourself, not me. No more assumptions about ME, no more accusations from you about ME. Those are personal attacks and I'm tired of them from you, no matter how polite you are, they're still false.

September will have the new raid, so stop complaining

Tux, the only thing you have been "accused" of is being angry. And your posts are reading like they're angry. Andryah did not say that you have taken a break from the game, she's saying it is healthy to do so.

The game was prepared for several years before it was released.

And the game was not released in any way that could give you salmonella, or e.coli, or any other type of bacterial infection or food poisoning that was dangerous to your health.

And what is the 9 months thing? They've released content within that time. 1.2 dropped in Early April, with a new warzone, a new flashpoint, and a new operation. That's content, bub. There have also been two in-game events which had their own story lines, the first one somewhat disconnected from the general story of the game, and the second, more recent event based in the context of... wait for it... more upcoming content.

In the midst of that they have made huge changes to the game, such as UI advancements, the LFG tool, more gear sets, the Legacy system and its perks and upgrades, and so forth. Now you might argue that those things "should have been there at launch", but this is really just your expectation, not a true fact. The game was playable and enjoyable without those things. But their addition did extend the game's play and was a good thing for overall quality of life concerns.

And finally, the elephant in the room is that they've had to manage a transition from subscription model to F2P to 15, now converting it fully to F2P all the way to 50. I've only been in one other MMORPG that did such a transition, but they also basically had a content freeze while that change was occurring, because when you're changing the entire mechanics of the game and how players can access the content, the first thing you do is lock the content down so that you have a finite goal to achieve. Trying to review and modify all existing content to match the new system while simultaneously releasing new content that hasn't been updated for that new system would be a foolish decision for any developer.

It would essentially be like banks who were checking their programming code for Y2K bugs simultaneously adding huge new chunks of dveloped systems into the mix that hadn't yet been checked. All you're doing is drawing out and extending the Y2K hunt, and in some cases, dooming yourself to failure since you're then dealing with a shifting goal line that's stretching out ahead of you. The smart management says "Stop adding new things while we check the old things", then when the old things are all in line, you first check the new things for compliance, then go ahead and continue adding the new things.

Did they know they'd have to do this back in 2011? I suspect no. Did they leave the possibility open? I think they did, because that's one reason why they're able to do it now within a few months. The system, at the very least, wasn't designed to prevent or obstruct the shift to F2P, as they're able to do the conversion now.

But that conversion is obviously going to interrupt the release of more content, in addition to the setbacks that occurred when EA started slashing staff. Whether they were supposed to be slashed or not, the combination of reduced workforce PLUS the shift to the F2P Hybrid model has obviously interrupted the release of new content.

And they tell us that this interruption is just about over. And they've made good on that. We have the event of the last few weeks to show for it. And a new operation coming in September, with the expectations being set that they're moving into a mode where they'll be releasing new content every 6 weeks or so.

And you don't know that they WON'T meet that goal any more than I know that they WILL. For now, we're just speculating into an uncertain future. But I'm confident we'll see more new content in the very near future, because we've already just seen a taste of it...