Regarding the Thousand Cuts and 3 Changes threads

This is think is something that people are frustrated about. When the majority of player feedback goes one direction, and the game takes off in the opposite direction. People feel like why bother giving feedback if you're not listening?

The 1.2 sorc changes were a good thing. Brought them inline pve wise with ops. Mercs are still the weak end of healing but now sorcs aren't totally op. 5, 6 sorc buff threads are not the majority opinion. All the classes every day get threads recommending buffs or nerfs.

This was not at all the intention of this thread. I totally agree with what you are saying, and people are way too entitled these days. MMO playerbases are some of the worst offenders.

This is more along the lines on what I was looking for, but with less of an emphasis on number 3. The problem with asking for rough timetables is that people like to rake the devs over the coals if things don't make deadlines. They see it as "You promised us X pony by Y time. It's Y. Where is my pony?" That isn't my intention at all. I'm not trying to add fuel to the fire here of anyone's "Stuff takes forever to get out." I want to see what things I have to look forward to. I want to see what direction the game is headed (in a vague sense), and I want to feel excited about things coming soon and be able to share this information with my friends. Some of them left the game, some still play, but I'd like to have something to talk about TOR related that isn't drenched in negativity.

You sir, have not worked on a car besides maybe doing an oil change. Manuals are general and are only used as a guide to supplement existing knowledge. Also, it is not meant to be a direct comparison, its meant to show that there's a common level of expectations for every profession such as being capable of effectively and efficiently doing your job to your customer's/client's/bosses' expectations. Being one of the "im a veteran mmo player" group and as a CUSTOMER, they have not met my expectations at all which has just recently resulted in me unsubbing from the game.... unfortunately .

Any person should be able to give a reasonably tentative timetable for the completion of their work and what they've been working on. The issue lies in that they do not communicate that. They're professional developers who have years of experience in this specific field, not some motley crew of dudes who program calculator games for my TI-84 Plus calculator. It's been apparent for some time that my, as well as everybody elses complaints are valid since over a million people have unsubbed from this game, which means that BW isn't doing something right, (check sub numbers from March/Apr 2012).

I add my 2 cents because I enjoyed playing this game....then since it's remained stagnant with little response from the devs, i stopped enjoying it. Unless some kind of major change happens, and not F2P because that doesnt change any of my issues with this game, Bioware is going to continue living in the world of make believe where nothing is wrong. Which they will sadly.

How awesome. But i find rift a horrible game with no replay value at all. so yeah i looked on the history of rift and they indeed added a bit more stuff then swtor, big deal. and a mmo features are always lacking in the beginning of a mmo (in fact rift was even worse). MMO are a long project and only after 2 years you usually see results . And my most important question? if you dont like this game then why are you playing it?

Actually, what we want is our money's worth, which is a basic tenet in capitalism. Since I'm not getting it, I've unsubscribed. The lack of subscribers driving a game to a F2P life-support model is also part of capitalism in action. In this case, I have exercised the limited level of control over game development that I have: they aren't getting any money from me. Because several others felt the same way as I do, they too have exercised their ability to impact game development by unsubbing. You seem to have missed a few basics of capitalism, and at the same time seem to feel that the customer has no value in today's market. Given what has happened here in SWTOR, one can only hope you'll eventually learn better.
As for the dev posts in the threads, one can hope the game will have markedly improved in a year when I check back in, but it sounds entirely too much like the empty promises that have been made in the past.

If you do not enjoy this game do not post about it these forums but simply leave. All your arguments are invalid but i cannot be bothered to have an argument with someone who obviously is not enjoying the game .

Personal taste, and lol at "a bit more stuff." Rift has added enough FREE content for subscribers to equal an expansion all by itself, and is putting the finishing touches on an actual expansion. The big event here lasted a week and consisted of a few fetch quests, from what I can see. The nine events for Rift form an almost continuous stream of optional content added with every major patch.

Rift did have its problems at launch and the devs have been extremely responsive, sometimes too much so, and were more than caught up after 9 months, where SWTOR is still a single player game with an MMO taped to it.

As for your "most important" question, I knew someone would say it. And I AM PLAYING RIFT! I have a 1-year sub and take a break now and then to play other things. Looking forward to the expansion...

SWTOR isn't a bad game, the problem is that it's not a $200 mil (or $300 or $500 or whatever) game, and never will be.

Balance nerfs are usually right these days, the days of the EQ monk seem to thankfully be long gone.

As an example of better community interaction, take a look at LOTRO. Whilst their interaction could be better, it is way better than here. They typically:

1) Release developer diaries on all new upcoming changes

2) Release patch notes 2-4 weeks before changes hit PTS

3) Discuss changes, explain their reasoning etc in feedback threads for the develop diaries.

4) Respond directly to pressing community issues.

It's nothing particularly revolutionary, they are told what to develop in advance and only start releasing information to the community when its a) ready and b) approved by marketing. After that things generally get better though and you get more responses.

For example, think it was with Rise of Isenguard expansion one of the devs released a developer diary for the Guardian class changes. What ensued was a massively long thread discussing the changes in which the developer explained his reasoning, was questioned by the community, and the changes were revised many times. The developer updated his dev diary 4 or 5 times with small tweaks suggested by the community. The dev kept his original goal and idea for the class changes, but tweaked it according to community experience / expectations.

Thats what we're missing here with regards to community interaction.

Personally, what i'd prefer more would be a general roadmap for the game. I don't care on timescales, i can wait, but I do want to know what the overarching plan is. SW:TOR is missing content for every single playstyle. Raiders dont have enough. PvPers dont have enough. Casuals dont have enough. Crafters dont have enough.

I want to know what the plan is for each area. In PvP, are you going to continue to focus on warzones, or are you going to revamp world pvp? Are you going to continue with vertical gear progression (bad) or switch to horizontal gear progression (good)? Are you going to change crafting in any significant way? What are your actual plans for free-to-play? What was your rational behind going free-to-play? How do you think it will actually generate more money?