Why P2W will ruin the game.

The intriguing thing is they've said that they don't want pay-to-win, yes. They've also said we'll get content on a 4 week cadence. Then on a 6 week cadence.

A whole crapton of stuff they say that is just absolute, complete, fabrication.

And let's remember that even as they said they're against pay-to-win, they went on to say in the very next breath that "boosts" will be in the cash shop. Without specific detail it's impossible to know if we, the community, would consider those "boosts" pay-to-win, but the word sure is ominous, isn't it?

I don't think "Warhammer Online" and "sold very, very well" should ever go in the same sentence. Warhammer Online is *primarily* a PvP game, and this isn't. I dispute your assertion that the devs/EA are directly talking about P2W, when everything I seen from them they insist TOR *won't* be P2W. If they end up selling WH gear in the cash shop, then yeah this game is toast for a lot of people. If it ends up being that way, I'll just uninstall and never look back, and I'm primarily a PvEer nowadays.

Well WAR sold a pretty decent amount (it just didn't retain them), but that's not what I mean.

I mean the P2W pet they put in WAR had nearly a 100% buy rate within 2 month of it becoming availible (and that won't have escaped EA accountants notice).


They are currently talking about adding cashshop stat gear to SWTOR, and EA exec have said they see nothing wrong with selling ammo reloads for RL dollars in Battlefield.

Personally I'd rather I did my best to make sure it didn't happen, rather than just passively let it happen, and then uninstall......... I'd rather be able to keep playing SWTOR frankly.

tin foil hat for the op..LOL

Yes p2w will ruin this game for someone I am sure since no one in this game has the same opnion on what makes an item p2w... I think p2w is more a perception than something that is real in game.. I am going to hold out on my opinion, until I see the store and what they offer, going to save my knees from all the silly knee jerk reactions..LOL

P2W is basically anything that allows you to circumvent the in-game path, via paying RL cash.

P2W would not ruin the game because I'm willing to pay over $1000 a month if possible for it. I P2W in real life and would love to do so in my video games as well.

Ah the time-tested "Slippery Slope" fallacy.

The sky is not falling folks.

That's what ruins it though, someone IS.......... and then they end up playing by themselves.

At the time it was first started, the US Federal Income Tax was "slippery slope". Now look where we are...

Slippery slope is real. In the case of P2W, it is driven by the combination of the publisher's greed (EA has this in spades) and inability to generate revenue any other way (as they've proved with this game).

The P2W slope here in SWTOR has been transformed into an air hockey table, coated with Teflon and thoroughly greased.

Yes because timescale for content scheduling in a game is serious business that should be taken at it word. There is a difference between that and down right pay 2 win.

Pay 2 win they lose the customer faith and their business is finished. Lack of content for a few weeks means it needs more tweaking.

Congratulations at learning tradesmen skill level criticizing on the internet. Oversimplifying speculation and theory-crafting and making it sound like fact.