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EA COO (Peter Moore) maintains confidence in BioWare

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EA COO (Peter Moore) maintains confidence in BioWare

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Deewe
08.22.2012 , 04:38 PM | #71
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Forty percent of people said, I just don't want to pay $15 a month
Forgot to mention the most important part: people don't want to pay for an roughly polished single player game lacking most AAA MMO features.

F2P won't help that.
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Ricktur
08.22.2012 , 04:40 PM | #72
Quote: Originally Posted by devincor View Post
The problem is EA addressing a symptom (player/revenue loss) and not the disease (engaging content). The susbscription is not a big deal when you feel you are getting your money's worth. Only when you see no value in what you are paying for does it become an issue. So the worth of the game (content in both pvp and pve) is what needs to be addressed for these people to return and/or stay. I believe the people who left the game already were saying "I love the game, but it is not WORTH $15 a month subscription due to having finished the content for my playstyle."
you sir. . . speak THE TRUTH

EA needs to stop trying to handle this, they keep causing bad decisions to be made!
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LordArtemis
08.22.2012 , 04:44 PM | #73
It's probably cheaper and has more profit potential for them to go free to play at the moment instead of adding new content. The design of the game makes adding any real content in end game too expensive.

Of course they could simply add regular MMO features, finish the game so to speak, and add sandboxy content to hold casual players...

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BigfootNZ
08.22.2012 , 04:51 PM | #74
Quote: Originally Posted by Ricktur View Post
GW2 is not the messiah, far from it my friend, you are in the honeymoon phase, 3 months down the road, you will drop GW2 like a lot of ppl, in fact, its saving grace is the no sub fee.
Never said it was, I just find it a might sight better than what ive been paying to play the last 5 months. Id happily pay for TOR and play GW2... but everything thats happening at the mo with TOR just puts payed to that idea

Also anyone playing GW2 and not having a primary interest in PvP might be disappointed... it is after all PvP game first and a PvE game second.

Kinda like saying with EvE what if you dont want to play a Null Space Mega Corporation,Economic, Criminal Empire simulator... we'll yeah, your destined for disappointment :P (As was I when I just had to farm lvl 4 missions in my caldari fleet com BS hour after hour to make isk for my GTC's)

Knew i shouldn't have used the words fan boy (hate that word my self)... aint and never will be 'fanboi', but I am very excited through what experience of GW2 ive had so far (4 stress test). Compared to TORs current endgame after the last 8 months or so, its got an awe full lot more to do from the get go.

Dont get me wrong, I kinda like TOR, its got aspects to it that are endearing despite its flaws... its just poked me and others a few to many times in the ribs the last month or so.

As to the OP, i wouldnt trust a single word from the mouth of any one from EA's upper teir... im a man of principal, fair play and the like, even if I dont like the person im defending sometimes and everything ive seen them do and say over the decades disgusts me, and their just getting worse (for a small while they seemed to have learned their lesson and improved... didnt last long)... Bioware being assimilated into EA was my last 'benefit of the doubt', there wont be another.
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08.22.2012 , 05:10 PM | #75
I was told earlier in this thread "pvp was a minor part of this game(swtor)" and that it was "primarily a pve game with a little bit of pve thrown in". Ok well lets turn the tables. The game is called "Guild Wars". Think about that for a second. It's not called Dungeon Divers, or Dragon Slayers. There is your first clue that it is primarily a pvp game with a little bit of pve thrown in. If lack of pve endgame is on your list of worries, you might wanna look elsewhere.
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Andryah
08.22.2012 , 05:22 PM | #76
Quote: Originally Posted by Ashivauto View Post
just my 2 cents, which with this community, which lacks any cohesion, means nothing....FLAME AWAY!!!!
That was way more then 2 cents.

I do however appreciate you owning up that it is your opinion.
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Andryah
08.22.2012 , 05:27 PM | #77
Quote: Originally Posted by BigfootNZ View Post
Never said it was, I just find it a might sight better than what ive been paying to play the last 5 months. Id happily pay for TOR and play GW2... but everything thats happening at the mo with TOR just puts payed to that idea

Also anyone playing GW2 and not having a primary interest in PvP might be disappointed... it is after all PvP game first and a PvE game second.
GW2 and SWTOR are actually fairly complimentary in terms of macro content. SWTOR is primarily PvE, and GW2 is primarily PvP.

Come the launch of Freemium on SWTOR, you will be able to play both for free if you like.

That said, I still believe the PvP community as a whole will quickly become jaded on GW2 and will bash it into the ground on their forums and demand changes while they eye their next messiah game. It's the nature of today's MMO community. The old schoolers are hunkered down in existing PvP properties, enjoying themselves for the most part. It is the new-gen PvPers, who think MMO PvP is a slapfest inside a contained and sanitary environment that will turn on GW2, even though GW2 offers them more then that in principle.
When you find yourself surrounded by hostile Clowns... always go for the "Juggler" first.

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Saiaku
08.22.2012 , 05:31 PM | #78
It's funny if EA are the ones losing confidence in BW.
EA's pulling the strings, the news should rather be how everyone on earth HAS lost confidence in EA years ago.
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Andryah
08.22.2012 , 05:32 PM | #79
Quote: Originally Posted by Ricktur View Post
what if you dont like pvp?

and i am a member of guildwars2guru.com gw2 forums and a major concern is that there is no pve content for large guilds and people that just want to pve.
You should not play GW2 if you are expecting strong end game PvE. That is not the games core focus and it's silly to expect them to distort the game for PvEers.

Just like it is silly to expect Bioware to distort the core of this game (PvE) for PvPers. PvP in this MMO is a set of minigames, with no consequences, and no faction pride elements or motivators whatsoever. It exists for the pleasure of the mini-game.

GW2 has the core premise to be more then that. Time will tell if the players use it, or distort and discard it because the PvP isn't "sanitary" enough for their WoW style PvP tastes.
When you find yourself surrounded by hostile Clowns... always go for the "Juggler" first.

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Andryah
08.22.2012 , 05:36 PM | #80
Quote: Originally Posted by AshenK View Post
Fact. EVE is gaining players.

Fact, GW2 is already looking like it's going to be a huge MMO.

Fact, SWTOR has lost most of it's player base and is somewhere around 200k and that number is going to drop in the next month.
You keep using the 200K number, with zero substantiation or supporting evidence and presenting it as fact. Please stop. It's inflammatory.

I will agree with you that probably a majority of PvPers have left the game or will shortly. Which is fine..... its NOT a PvP game. There are other games for that. I play both PvP centric and PvE centric MMOs. I have no illusion that one should become the other, or vice-versa. Let each game develop along it's core strengths and themes IMO.
When you find yourself surrounded by hostile Clowns... always go for the "Juggler" first.