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Solo Ranked WZ's (Terrible idea)

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Solo Ranked WZ's (Terrible idea)

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KhalifaHaze
08.22.2012 , 03:00 PM | #51
Quote: Originally Posted by Pistols View Post
No doubt man, and I'm only at 93, those last 7 levels will be long lol.

Although, I play 3 different toons a lot, and only have a few hours per day to play.
Im was ready to gouge my eyes out before I got to 100....such a long grind for no reason lol
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Altheran
08.22.2012 , 03:02 PM | #52
Quote: Originally Posted by KhalifaHaze View Post
meh...either way I had time to farm out a full wh set before RWZ came into the game. Even casuals would have been able to get a few pieces.
But now, you know why I pointed that...
OP said it is a terrible idea because it is only a way to grind WH, but it is the way RWZ were designed to.

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KhalifaHaze
08.22.2012 , 03:04 PM | #53
Quote: Originally Posted by Altheran View Post
But now, you know why I pointed that...
OP said it is a terrible idea because it is only a way to grind WH, but it is the way RWZ were designed to.
Basically bioware/ea = epic fail ruined a game with crazy potential.

/thread
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Russkiier
08.22.2012 , 03:17 PM | #54
My opinion of ranked warzones is that they exist for two purposes. A) to provide an environment that puts liked minded players together. You play ranked warzones to win, its in your best interest to play for the objectives rather than farm medals (much more so, due to the ranking system, than in regular warzones). B)create a much easier path to WH.

I am in recruit/bm mix and have played in a few RWZs for fun with my guild. Im no hero, but the team does alright because we are coordinated (vent ftw!!). Our coordination was much more of a factor in our victories (and close loss) than gear. In fact we won one game that we were down a player (he DC'ed right before the match started).

Solo Queues would decrease the quality of ranked warzone games, and after an intial boost to the quantity, people would start QQing about premades vs pugs and the number of RWZ games would go down again. Bioware shouldnt implement solo RWZ queue

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foxmob
08.22.2012 , 03:43 PM | #55
the fact that I agree with pistols on an issue is probably the most striking proof that solo queues are a bad idea. that said, if they did exist, they would have to be like grp finder and based on the basic 2 2 4 formula. oh, they'd get wrecked, and I would never use the finder tool, but it's the only remotely plausible way I can think of to implement solo queues.
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Brool
08.22.2012 , 03:44 PM | #56
Quote: Originally Posted by Pistols View Post
I think the reason Ranked WZ's came about in the first place, was to allow 8 man teams to compete against one another for the highest tier of PvP (regardless of gear you're wearing). By allowing solo queues to happen, it will effectively destroy the basic principle this was based on. I have no desire to wreck 8 solo player teams, any more than they wish to lose repeatedly. It's not fun for either side. Players have the capability to form 8 man groups, heck I even have a PUG sheet I created for our own server for peeps to sign on to, but at least it's thought out to somewhat have a chance. Solo queue'ing and watering down the highest tier of PvP is just a bad idea. IMO.
Pistols I understand you think most people want this to farm gear, Again, that has no bearing why me and my guildie would want it. we have our gear, we are augmented. We are tired of pugging in normal warzones vs recruit gear. We are not going to leave our guild that consists of 3 of our other close friends that dont enjoy pvp just to join a guild that runs ranked warzones.

Secondly, No one is saying that bioware has to pit solo queue vs 8 man queue. Although, not that anyone would get the picture but FPS games have had ranked queue's that involved solo and groups for years now. I dont care how many times people say this is not an FPS so that wouldnt work, they are wrong. It is still 8 players vs 8 players. Give us our own ranked bracket for solo queue, i am fine with that. However, excluding the people that are in smaller guilds from ranked warzones in a game that is having trouble with subscriptions in the first place isn't really that great.

I personally love the game still, I truly enjoy the pvp. I could care less about OwPVP because I come from a competitive gaming background. I've been to the tournements. I've played with money on the line, and again this is why I am wanting solo ranked queue's. You can have you're "top tier teams", but give the people who do not have the numbers the ability to show our stuff as well.

Telling us to join a pug is not the option. I've joined the pug before. I took 7 lose's in a row to the top republic team on our sever the first day ranked came out. Trust me, it wasnt because of me. I still enjoyed everyone one of those matches, because even tho I was taking the loses, I was still showing that I stacked up. I went from a non target in the first warzone, to the first target the entire team went after whenever I stepped onto the field.

Also, those pugs tend to be gear farmers, and thats not what I am looking for.

Give us a solo ranked bracket that allows us upto 2 or 3 members in a group to queue up, put a minimum valor rank or expertise number required to be allowed to queue. Keep us seperate from you guys, put us up against you guys. I dont care. BUT, as you say you dont want to water down you're ranked pvp, try being us that can only queue up against people in recruit gear or with no clue in how to play in the first place.
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Givemedanger
08.22.2012 , 04:01 PM | #57
No.

We need solo ranked.

Minimum expertise requirement - 1000 or more.

Normal comms not ranked comms.

No premades whatsoever. None!

Should be cross-server.

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Pistols
08.22.2012 , 04:02 PM | #58
Quote: Originally Posted by foxmob View Post
the fact that I agree with pistols on an issue is probably the most striking proof that solo queues are a bad idea.
I appreciate the nod, lol. Yeah, I may not be likeable all the time, but I rarely post super serious threads in the PvP forums. This request just irks me, as I do not want RWZ's to become the next farming grounds for lazy players. We all know these types exist, and since solo players would NOT have control over that, further illustrates the flaw in such a request. Anyhoo, thanks for the reply.

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Kawiki
08.22.2012 , 04:04 PM | #59
Quote: Originally Posted by Givemedanger View Post
No.

We need solo ranked.

Minimum expertise requirement - 1000 or more.

Normal comms not ranked comms.

No premades whatsoever. None!
You vision is too extreme and no one would do it. Just quit suggesting it.

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DarthOvertone
08.22.2012 , 04:09 PM | #60
Quote: Originally Posted by Pistols View Post
Be honest, the ONLY reason why peeps want this, is due to gear farming. Period.

RWZ's are for cooridinated groups, I really have NO desire to read endless amounts of QQ on the forums how an 8man group wrecked 8 solo QQ'ers, as well as those carebears who are going to sit at a node and farm medals.
Pistols, while I agree with your overall point, let's be honest. Since the first couple weeks of RWZs when there were actually some good fights and people hadn't yet realized the system was a bust, peeps have only been using RWZs to farm gear, both goods and bads.

Ideally, yes. RWZs should only be where the best fights are to be found. But nobody is using RWZs to find good fights. Everyone is using RWZs to gear up. And frankly, until there is a functional matchmaking system, and until there is Xserver queuing, that's all RWZs will be good for.

So in the end, adding a RWZ Solo queue won't make a difference of how those matches are commencing presently. There will just be more peeps in the pool and more RWZ matches. As an aside, my Imp guild was in the RWZ queue for over three hours last night without one pop. The system could definitely use some new blood because currently it's near impossible to even get a match.
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