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DarthAxe

08.22.2012 , 09:53 AM \| #201	Quote
Anybody remember Bullfrog or Westwood? What is happening at BW is exactly what happened to those companies, EA came in with the cash bought them up and shut them down eventually. The fact that TOR has been an utter disaster, going from sub based to f2p in less than a year cannot be called anything less. Anyways I will not be resubbing and I have had it with EA, I will not be buying anything else from them, ket some other peon give them their money.

ripster

08.22.2012 , 10:02 AM \| #202	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Goretzu After the F2P you kept access to the old content whether you had the VIP (sub) option or F2P option, although F2P did have other limitations such as charater slots/bank space/gold amounts etc. If you dropped from VIP to Premium, you lost access to Quest Packs, even if you were a subscriber before the switch to F2P. You did keep any expansion you bought, which SWTOR has none to make an issue of yet.

Eillack

08.22.2012 , 10:11 AM \| #203	Quote
Lol @ OP and Massively. Those who listen to their troll rants become so foolish. Look, the article said it would never be top-end stats. Most likely (seeing that no one here has any facts, only speculations!) green level items which are nothing. Do I like this in general, no, but it is still better than STO most likely.

jarjarloves

08.22.2012 , 10:14 AM \| #204	Quote
call me crazy but I prefer to wait and see rather then waste time and energy fearing what MIGHT happen. If they do make it P2W I stop playing and don't give them a dime and move on. Simple as that. Not going to rage and make some huge post on the forums how I supported the game from day 1 and Bioware failed me. I just simple take my money elsewhere. My money speaks louder then any forum post I could ever write. If the game is still fun and not P2W then I keep playing until it is no longer fun. I'm pretty sure Bioware knows what happens if they make the game P2W.
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Goretzu

08.22.2012 , 10:24 AM \| #205	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackardin NM, I see what you are saying here. I'm not going to speculate further however because we do not have sufficient information yet. Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs Makeb isn't current content though. Makeb wasn't sold with the box, nor promised with it, so you have no right to demand access to it as "F2P', which is what I feel you're arguing for. They MAY be able to sell it to some subscribers, I hope they don't and I feel it would be a terrible mistake if they did...this game is losing players (4 of 5 or more) because of how little there is to do, not a sub fee. Once it's done, it is done. To say it's pointless to worry about something because it hasn't happened yet is daft....... that is exactly the point TO worry about it. What is daft is to worry about something AFTER it happened, because by then there's nothing to be done about it.
Real Star Wars space combat please, not Star Wars Fox! Maybe some PvP and flight too? Goretzu's Law: As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving "Entitled" approaches 1

Goretzu

08.22.2012 , 10:27 AM \| #206	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah Aspects of the game ARE content. It's not just which zones you can play in. Such as? It was only quest packs put in AFTER F2P, wasn't it? Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah Pretty much summed it up right there for yourself. You keep expressing how mad you are about this, and when it is pointed out that you are likely wrong about something or purely speculating, you shift and come right back from a different angle. 90% of that is all on you because you are creating it in your mind instead of actually waiting to see the release details. All you are doing is making yourself upset about it. It's not like anything you post here is going to drive Bioware in a differerent direction. Nor are you influencing many people to follow your imagination on the issue. So I don't see what this achieves for you. Bioware can believe what they like, it doesn't make it right, correct, or what I (or anyone else) should believe though.
Real Star Wars space combat please, not Star Wars Fox! Maybe some PvP and flight too? Goretzu's Law: As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving "Entitled" approaches 1

TUXs

08.22.2012 , 10:44 AM \| #207	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Goretzu Once it's done, it is done. To say it's pointless to worry about something because it hasn't happened yet is daft....... that is exactly the point TO worry about it. What is daft is to worry about something AFTER it happened, because by then there's nothing to be done about it. I wasn't implying it was pointless to *make your opinion on the matter known, I fully support, both your stance on Makeb, and your right to voice your opinion. But...you're going beyond stating your opinion on Makeb and accusing Bioware of vile practices that they haven't engaged in (yet). I FULLY understand your concern and I share your thoughts on Makeb. I feel it NEEDS* to be included in the sub fee because they need SOME carrot to dangle to the F2P people before asking for both $15 AND whatever the 'expansion' would cost. If they don't bait F2P people with Makeb, they'll never sell F2P people on a sub fee...there'd just be no advantage to paying one. While I agree with your concern and share your opinion, I think you're going overboard in your chastising of Bioware on this and your arguing for getting Makeb for free in the wrong way. They don't just owe it to you because you bought the game...however, I do feel they owe it to people who PAY for their sub.
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Andryah

08.22.2012 , 10:46 AM \| #208	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs I wasn't implying it was pointless to *make your opinion on the matter known, I fully support, both your stance on Makeb, and your right to voice your opinion. But...you're going beyond stating your opinion on Makeb and accusing Bioware of vile practices that they haven't engaged in (yet). I FULLY understand your concern and I share your thoughts on Makeb. I feel it NEEDS* to be included in the sub fee because they need SOME carrot to dangle to the F2P people before asking for both $15 AND whatever the 'expansion' would cost. If they don't bait F2P people with Makeb, they'll never sell F2P people on a sub fee...there'd just be no advantage to paying one. While I agree with your concern and share your opinion, I think you're going overboard in your chastising of Bioware on this and your arguing for getting Makeb for free in the wrong way. They don't just owe it to you because you bought the game...however, I do feel they owe it to people who PAY for their sub. I agree with TUXs. And now I am dizzy over the resonance between us today TUXs
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CKNORTH

08.22.2012 , 10:53 AM \| #209	Quote
And then they will sell ten layered stat scrolls to be able to cap your stats at level one, lolololol
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DarthOvertone

08.22.2012 , 11:38 AM \| #210	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Goretzu P2W is anything you can buy for RL cash that circumvents the need to progress in the game. No it isn't. Pay-to-Win (P2W) is products only available in the game shop for real $$$ that give a player an advantage over another player which cannot be acquired through normal gameplay. Examples from LOTRO (and they are numerous) would be Stat Tomes, Store Pots (Healing/Power), and Store Buff Scrolls.
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