Why P2W will ruin the game.

To be fair, they did happen.

It may have escaped your attention but the game lost subs faster than Usain Bolt clocked world records.

Rifts budget was low enough that they can afford to do well on 300k subs. ToRs budget was high enough that 300k subs puts them deep in the red. Its not about how many subscribers you have. Its about how many subscribers you have vs what you need.

I would hardly say that ToR is doing well. I know you love the game but its not doing well, just because you love it.

WaR was better than this lousy game ever was.


Still lol at you believing anything EA says... GL with that.


See all you PvPers in GW2.

That's the thing, plus does anyone really have good things to say about say STO version of P2W?

Aside from the fact that they have already stated the game wont be P2W, it would never happen anyway simply because it would be a terrible business decision.

Probably not for EA

EA's only comment that 'says' they'll be selling P2W gear specifically points out that it wont be any better than A. What you find in game or can get with time, and B. Wont even nearly stack up to end game stuff.

I honestly wouldn't mind if EA put an orange dancer/slave costume into the Cash Shop, with a bunch of green mods. Hell, I think that would be the best way for EA to go for Cash Shop items, sticking the 'silly'ish and the 'good looking' items into the Cash Shop as oranges, even with no mods in it.

I would pay to be able to run around in Trooper esque 'heavy' looking armor which is actually Light. I know many people who would run around in dancer costumes if they didn't need a security key or social 2 (which honestly isn't really possible nowadays except at endgame, or if you farm Black Talon.)


If EA fails more in putting out the cash shop, it will be due to A. Overpricing everything, or/and B. Alienating subscribers by making them pay for what EA thinks is big, but what everyone else knows isn't.

Such as the new planet. If the new planet adds 10 more levels and is actually a really giant planet that can get you through to level 60, then charging a subscription for it is fine. WoW added 10 levels for its first two expansions, and both added continents that were about half the size of Kalimdor or... that other one. Haven't played Cata or Pandarea, but I'm sure they didn't add that much more, being only five levels.

But if the new planet is just a new World PVP thing like Ilum, or with no story, or with no new levels, or really with no reason to go to it, then don't charge for it, not from subscribers. That's dumb.

You've never read that EA execs quote about selling ammo clips to people that have run out of ammo (in Battlefield) for RL money I guess.

Or indeed WARs P2W stat pet.

EA is at best very open to P2W as a "business model".


(for the record I agree P2W is a terrible business model, at best getting a very short term profit before the whole thing implodes)

When they state it's going P2W, I shall take your 2 cents.
And hey, you'll win!

That is a matter of degrees. This game isn't doing as well as they wanted it to do. I don't want to keep explain business to people, but when you drop millions of dollars, the bean counters have justify the expense, so they put together projections on how the game will be received. It is obvious that EA thought it would be a bigger hit than it is. That doesn't mean it isn't doing well.