I Am All For Pay To Win, Are You?

P2W is subjective to each individual. What one would consider P2W, another would not. I would put money on there being a very fine line of what they put on the store.

I have a link to the interview http://www.buffed.de/SWTOR-Star-Wars...tches-1017839/

The video is in english

Aside from Cartel Coins and XP boosts, none of these things are likely to ... wait ... flying mounts?! Are you serious?!

Anything that you have to have to be competitive that can be bought with real money will greatly increase the chance of me unsubbing.

Likewise the moment I get the feeling they try to scam me out of my money as a sub, I unsub. There has got to be enough reason to have a sub in the first place.

But then you have serious resentment among the playerbase. Sure it may take x amount of hours to get war hero gear but you know what thats so easy compaired to the Campain gear grind. I could see the *working class* as you seem to call yourself asking for a way to buy campain tokens so you have a chance to participate in the new hard mode ops that come with Makeb. I don't think thats fair to the playerbase or yourself.

If you just buy the gear it has no meaning. You didnt earn it. You didnt have to work with your guild to learn that strats to completing content to get said item. It cheapens the whole experiance. It trivializes everyone elses hard work. Dealing with bugs server lag player dissconnects on top of it as well.

I could see you buying stat boosts that are temporary. That would help out the guild your with to complete content, but you still should have to actually get the gear the same way everyone else does.
I played EQ1 for 5 years never made max level. I only played the game 3 hours a day max except weekends. I still had fun. When I did finally get the carrot it felt so amazing. To cheapen that by just purchasing that is just wrong and unfair to yourself and the rest of us...

using this "I havnt got enough time so just gimme all the goodies now" is a crock and you know it.

so its right to negate all the rewards earned by players who actually play the game.
in that case why not have a magic button in the cartel shop that actually plays the game for you
so you never have to log in.

so its right is it ?, that when new content is rolled out, the actual players of the game spend weeks
getting the tokens to buy these items, while the P2W'rs go out and buy all the gear on day 1.

how is that leveling the play field ? it isnt

If by the time you hit that content, it is no longer of interest (taking PvP considering as to how I as stated do not believe people should buy the latest raid tier gear, considering as to how imo that doesn't make sense) to play those warzones, then those warzones are dodge and of not high enough quality. The grind towards it then is then nothing more than a grind to make up for time in between patches.

Whilst in reality the quality of the warzones should be aimed for being at such a level that years after release, they remain interesting to play, in a similar fashion as to how people can still play the same maps over and over in their favorite FPS and RTS games.




The problem is that in current MMO's, the content is only there at endgame.

PvP wise, it makes little sense to aim to play competitive against players with different levels of actual ingame skills, as well as different gear. Rather than player skill you're simply letting an upper hand in statistics do the work. It's like playing poker against someone who by default gets handed 3 aces.

So a quick way up to the endgame level of pvp could yield a lot of interest.



Additionally, raiding is where it's at for many players, but the grind toward it is not. 10 years ago, major group content which formed the early form of current raiding used to be available at all levels. The term endgame, was practically non-existing. It was the same as early-game and mid-game for that matter. It was a time in which an MMO had no end. People called it grind because of the exp requirements per level, but quickly forgot that those levels did come with plenty of choice in content.

These days you got levels with no challenging content, a pure grind up to cap, then a grind for gear, before you can start raiding. So why, if all you were ever interested in in MMO's was the challenging content, should players be forced to go through that grind over and over?


Publishers can either do two things: start reintroducing challenging content early on ingame; either by a sort of sidekicking system where you get boosted to raid like stats and levels are no longer of any importance; or by simply creating lower level raids. Or by chipping in on their own profit and allowing people quick access to what they actually truly want to be doing in this MMO.

A thought about "imma hard working man blah" (im a hard working man too). So your excuse is that you don't have the time to gather the gear. It's very funny i think, here's what. You wanna buy tier 1 gear coz you don't have time to gather it. But what's the point when you "can't" go and gather tier 2 with it? Or you just want to stand all day at the fleet and show "look what i have, screw you"...

I hope bioware put some watermark onto those items. "Look that gear, it's frickin' awesome. Let's inspect: "bought on 2012.11.23", then we just run around and laugh"

Sorry, I don't want to be rude, but that's ridiculous

Well if you think Blue proto armours/weapons are important from 1-49 then I guess that's your take on P2W.. personally I see no need for anything other than the trash stuff you pick up off of every dead mob.. so if idiots want to pay real cash for something that isn't of any tangiable benefit through the leveling experience.. all power to them, hopefully there idiocy will help pay for the next content update.

I have no issues with F2P or cashshops, heck I might even buy some new dayglow hairsyle or a pair of rose tinted glasses but yes... I say NO! to P2W period.. those that are willing to go that route in order to play a game likely need all the help they can get anyway.

Raiding doesn't take a lot of time, an hour or 6 a week can be enough. So why, for an hour or 6 a week of raiding, should one first have to grind about 120 hours to reach the level cap and initial gear requirement? That's 20 weeks someone could have used on doing what they like doing best, raiding.

The same can apply to endgame PvP.