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CorellianWannabe
08.21.2012 , 12:14 AM | #111
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
IMO, you are confusing the gear a character wears with the player hitting the spacebar like a hyperactive gerbil.

Gear does not make you blow through the stories. Impatient spacebar spmammers do that.
Really? Better gear doesn't let a player finish the quests faster and easier, given that every quest involves killing something (or clicking something guarded by something that must be killed)?

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Goretzu
08.21.2012 , 11:02 AM | #112
Quote: Originally Posted by ForsakenKing View Post
so every new character you make will be stomped by people who bought their lowbie gear. no thanks. This game has always been about the journey to 50 and now that part is P2W.
Remenicent of the old twinking debates. However at least that was created by people doing stuff in the game, not just laying down RL cash.
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Goretzu
08.21.2012 , 11:04 AM | #113
Quote: Originally Posted by grombrinda View Post
Hehehe...no moderators to shut this down yet?? I think they leaked this info to gauge our reaction..Please guys when the cartel shop opens up, Don't buy said gear for any reason what so ever (although why sell gear on CS, unless its overpowered, when stuff you get from drops and quest is just as good)...only way to send a message is by not sending money their way. Welp in regards to gear I mean.
I would glady buy vanity items, cusomization gear or fashion I should say, legacy bank!!! (crosses fingers), hell even a potted plant to put in my ship...but never gear.
Yeah all those things are fine.......... stat gear? P2W.
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ZionHalcyon
08.21.2012 , 11:07 AM | #114
Quote: Originally Posted by Goretzu View Post
Yeah all those things are fine.......... stat gear? P2W.
DDO sells statted gear in their shop. You still can get better gear questing.

I'd imagine this will be the same here.

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ripster
08.21.2012 , 11:12 AM | #115
I have no problem with selling of stat gear in the game for players below level 50. If someone wants to pay $2 for a set of level 30 class gear that will last them a few levels, let them. I know I've hit periods in the leveling where I suspect my gear has fallen behind and there is no gear progression system while leveling like there is after level 50. It is not like anyone needs to buy the stat gear, for the most part you can get what you need if you stick to all of the planet quests, but there are other play styles out there, especially F2P ones, that will find the ability to buy some gear while leveling a big plus, and no one is going to win the game because they bought some gear (which is probably on par with whatever is dropped/rewarded) at level 30.

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CorellianWannabe
08.21.2012 , 11:22 AM | #116
Quote: Originally Posted by ripster View Post
I have no problem with selling of stat gear in the game for players below level 50. If someone wants to pay $2 for a set of level 30 class gear that will last them a few levels, let them. I know I've hit periods in the leveling where I suspect my gear has fallen behind and there is no gear progression system while leveling like there is after level 50. It is not like anyone needs to buy the stat gear, for the most part you can get what you need if you stick to all of the planet quests, but there are other play styles out there, especially F2P ones, that will find the ability to buy some gear while leveling a big plus, and no one is going to win the game because they bought some gear (which is probably on par with whatever is dropped/rewarded) at level 30.
No one is going to 'win' by buying raid gear either, so why limit the cash shop to lower level gear?

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Goretzu
08.21.2012 , 11:23 AM | #117
Quote: Originally Posted by ZionHalcyon View Post
DDO sells statted gear in their shop. You still can get better gear questing.

I'd imagine this will be the same here.
If they are intending to emulate DDO then things will not go well.

Can you imagine SWTOR PvP (with the problems it has) once it reaches the heady "heights" of DDO PvP?
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ripster
08.21.2012 , 11:35 AM | #118
Quote: Originally Posted by CorellianWannabe View Post
No one is going to 'win' by buying raid gear either, so why limit the cash shop to lower level gear?
I addressed that. Gear progression. Raiding is gear progression. If you just buy the gear... well you beat the game, right? Still, raiding is where the real competitiveness starts, not leveling through the class stories.

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Jetronin
08.21.2012 , 11:37 AM | #119
"there will be some things that we put out in the store that do enhance power value in some way, [but not at the top end.""

Key words, not at top end.
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DarthOvertone
08.21.2012 , 11:42 AM | #120
Quote: Originally Posted by CritasStorm View Post
"I don't want to unbalance the game by putting things out on the store that somebody can walk in on day one, buy and be the winner. Having said that, there will be some things that we put out in the store that do enhance power value in some way, but not at the top end."
I am fine with this. Giving people the opportunity to purchase gear while leveling is not a big deal as long as that gear isn't better than gear people can craft themselves or potentially purchase on the GTN.

Quote: Originally Posted by CritasStorm View Post
However, Hickman could not confirm nor deny that it will expand the level cap, nor would he go into detail about whether BioWare is going to attempt to sell this to subscribers or not.
This rubs me the wrong way. I don't mind paying for extra content, or Makeb as an expansion. If BW had stated that Makeb would be a paid expansion from the outset, there would be no problem. The problem is that BW stated Makeb would be free to subscribers when they announced the new zone. Charging subscribers for Makeb would be an outright lie in this regard.

So I don't mind paying for extra content. But I do mind being lied to. And sadly, this wouldn't be the first time that BW has lied to me.
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