I Am All For Pay To Win, Are You?

Did I say they invented it or did I say they will milk it?

Reading comprehension 101 bud.

If something is going to make them money then they are going to do it. People can sit there and say they won't but some of us know damn well they will. ActiVision and Ubisoft are just as bad and the recent price debacle over Dawnguard and the Horse Armour in Oblivion put Bathesda on that map too.

No it's not down to one company but then again those other companies don't have anything to do with SWTOR do they.

Now stop being pedantic.

My circumstances are similar to the OP. I am a working adult, I can remember going to the theater in the summer of '77 to see Episode IV, I play LOTRO so I am familiar with F2P. etc... While I certainly don't want to see a cash store upset game balance (particularly endgame balance) in SWTOR, I do think BW would be wise to make some of the more mundane necessities like consumables and crafting boosts, as well as cosmetics, available for real money. My play time is fairly limited by real life obligations, so I guess what I am hoping for is "pay to not have to spend my time grinding".

Both of these, QFT. I'm all for Pay2Pretty. But Pay2Win is another thing. It's disgusting. You dont pay to reach max stats in a console game. And thats the point of playing the game. If you're going to buy an item in even a console game that gives you max stats, I dont see the point in playing the game at all. Takes away any challenge that would be present. I'm not even sure why someone would want it in a game, but thats your choice.

My circumstances are similar to the OP. I am a working adult, I can remember going to the theater in the summer of '77 to see Episode IV, I play LOTRO so I am familiar with F2P. etc... While I certainly don't want to see a cash store upset game balance (particularly endgame balance) in SWTOR, I do think BW would be wise to make some of the more mundane necessities like consumables and crafting boosts, as well as cosmetics, available for real money. My play time is fairly limited by real life obligations, so I guess what I am hoping for is "pay to not have to spend my time grinding".

So uh, don't take this the wrong way or anything, but please unsub and never come back.

Real life is already pay-to-win. At least SWTOR is an even playing field. The second I run into some guy who shelled out $50 in cartel coins for a +500 expertise bonus in a warzone, I'm out of here. That's crap.

Where was this at?

The interview (link in the threads) that spawned the following two threads:

Gamescom Interview with Jeff Hickman about the future of SWTOR

TOR to sell Stated Gear In FTP cash shop here is our new content after 6 monthes

Everybody know it ain't pay-to-win if you got it.

Swag.

Firstly, I am not a troll and I am not writing this thread to get attention. I am an adult Star Wars fan who has seen Episode IV - VI in the cinema when they were first screened. I bought into the pre-launch hype and own two copies of SWTOR Collector's Edition, mainly due to the promised "exclusive" CE Store where I hoped to spend real money to buy "exclusive" virtual items. I stopped playing LOTRO for SWTOR and still have LOTRO credits in my LOTRO account.

I loved buying vanity items, pets different seasonal horses that are faster and stat and XP boosts in LOTRO and thought SWTOR would be the same, especially the CE store. I found out early in the game that we the CE store concept was only hype, but I gave BW some months to improve on it. I subbed for 6 month because of this and also because I enjoyed SWTOR at the pre-50 levels. I have just unsubbed due to various reasons which I discussed in another thread. However, I plan to pop in after they start the F2P just to have a look at the ingame store to see if there is any P2W items. If they are good enough, I might re-sub.

Specific P2W items I like:
PvP Stat boosts
PvP XP boosts
Exclusive CE armour with stats enhancements
Exclusive CE weapons with stats boosts
Flying mounts
Very fast speeders
Cartel coins
Datacrons which are difficult to get

Does anyone else like P2W items like I do?