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I Am All For Pay To Win, Are You?

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I Am All For Pay To Win, Are You?

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MalDeChagas
08.21.2012 , 09:39 AM | #21
Quote: Originally Posted by Ratior View Post
Firstly, I am not a troll and I am not writing this thread to get attention. I am an adult Star Wars fan who has seen Episode IV - VI in the cinema when they were first screened.
I don't know anybody who saw Star Wars in the theater who refers to it as Episode IV

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Katsuragisama
08.21.2012 , 09:40 AM | #22
Quote: Originally Posted by lorelthesecond View Post
You are GOING TO LOVE THIS GAME THEN.
Quote: Originally Posted by Cavell View Post
EA does.
Both of these, QFT. I'm all for Pay2Pretty. But Pay2Win is another thing. It's disgusting. You dont pay to reach max stats in a console game. And thats the point of playing the game. If you're going to buy an item in even a console game that gives you max stats, I dont see the point in playing the game at all. Takes away any challenge that would be present. I'm not even sure why someone would want it in a game, but thats your choice.

And I'm sure you'll love this game in the coming months. Them adding blue gear to the cash shop is just testing the waters while making cash. Other than that, sure you could use it in PvP, but you could also level crafting and make yourself some nice purple gear to own in Warzones. Doesnt hold much value in the game itself other than to sell people gear they will quickly outlevel, and see what people think of it before they add P2W endgame gear.
Quote: Originally Posted by John Riccitiello, Electronic Arts Inc. - CEO
When you are six hours into playing Battlefield and you run out of ammo in your clip, and we ask you for a dollar to reload, you're really not very price sensitive at that point in time... We're not gouging, but we're charging.

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Gomla
08.21.2012 , 09:42 AM | #23
Quote:
"When you are six hours into playing Battlefield and you run out of ammo in your clip, and we ask you for a dollar to reload, you're really not very price sensitive at that point in time."

"A consumer gets engaged in a property, they might spend 10,20,30,50 hours on the game and then when they're deep into the game they're well invested in in. We're not gouging, but we're charging and at that point in time the commitment can be pretty high."

"But it is a great model and I think it represents a substantially better future for the industry."
Direct quote from an interview with John Riccitiello of EA.

If they smell a money making opportunity then they will milk it for all they can.

If pay to win items will make them money then damn right they will sell them.

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Ratior
08.21.2012 , 09:45 AM | #24
Quote: Originally Posted by MalDeChagas View Post
I don't know anybody who saw Star Wars in the theater who refers to it as Episode IV
LOL! I am Asian. When Ep IV was first shown here in 1977, they probably had a later version which does say "Episode IV: A New Hope" when the upward scrolling blurb started at the beginning of the movie.

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TheBBP
08.21.2012 , 09:45 AM | #25
Quote: Originally Posted by Gomla View Post
If they smell a money making opportunity then they will milk it for all they can.

If pay to win items will make them money then damn right they will sell them.
Why do people act like this business tactic is exclusive to EA? ALL companies are in business to milk you if they can. People championing against EA like they invented corporate greed just makes them look dumb.

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iamthehoyden
08.21.2012 , 09:46 AM | #26
No, absolutely not.
aren't you a little short for a stormtrooper?
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murshawursha
08.21.2012 , 09:47 AM | #27
Quote: Originally Posted by Ratior View Post
Firstly, I am not a troll and I am not writing this thread to get attention. I am an adult Star Wars fan who has seen Episode IV - VI in the cinema when they were first screened. I bought into the pre-launch hype and own two copies of SWTOR Collector's Edition, mainly due to the promised "exclusive" CE Store where I hoped to spend real money to buy "exclusive" virtual items. I stopped playing LOTRO for SWTOR and still have LOTRO credits in my LOTRO account.

I loved buying vanity items, pets different seasonal horses that are faster and stat and XP boosts in LOTRO and thought SWTOR would be the same, especially the CE store. I found out early in the game that we the CE store concept was only hype, but I gave BW some months to improve on it. I subbed for 6 month because of this and also because I enjoyed SWTOR at the pre-50 levels. I have just unsubbed due to various reasons which I discussed in another thread. However, I plan to pop in after they start the F2P just to have a look at the ingame store to see if there is any P2W items. If they are good enough, I might re-sub.

Specific P2W items I like:
PvP Stat boosts
PvP XP boosts
Exclusive CE armour with stats enhancements
Exclusive CE weapons with stats boosts
Flying mounts
Very fast speeders
Cartel coins
Datacrons which are difficult to get

Does anyone else like P2W items like I do?
So uh, don't take this the wrong way or anything, but please unsub and never come back.

Real life is already pay-to-win. At least SWTOR is an even playing field. The second I run into some guy who shelled out $50 in cartel coins for a +500 expertise bonus in a warzone, I'm out of here. That's crap.

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jgoldsack
08.21.2012 , 09:48 AM | #28
Quote: Originally Posted by Dagor-Dagorath View Post
My circumstances are similar to the OP. I am a working adult, I can remember going to the theater in the summer of '77 to see Episode IV, I play LOTRO so I am familiar with F2P. etc... While I certainly don't want to see a cash store upset game balance (particularly endgame balance) in SWTOR, I do think BW would be wise to make some of the more mundane necessities like consumables and crafting boosts, as well as cosmetics, available for real money. My play time is fairly limited by real life obligations, so I guess what I am hoping for is "pay to not have to spend my time grinding".
I am so flipping tired of the "I am a working adult" argument. You know what? A very large percentage of people who play this game are working adults. I work 8-6 every day, have 3 young children... yet because I am able to manage my time I am able to do everything in this game that I want (currently rank 85 pvp). I have 5 alts all at 40+, all crafting skills maxed out, etc etc.

Stop using that as an excuse, because it really makes you sound like you do not know how to balance your time.
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ReverendAnderson
08.21.2012 , 09:49 AM | #29
Quote: Originally Posted by ProfessorWalsh View Post
keeping my sub open just to see what happens.
Can't you do that without being subscribed? I mean, what happens when "what happens" is something you don't like and you just spent months paying $15 to see it?
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Gomla
08.21.2012 , 09:50 AM | #30
Quote: Originally Posted by TheBBP View Post
Why do people act like this business tactic is exclusive to EA? ALL companies are in business to milk you if they can. People championing against EA like they invented corporate greed just makes them look dumb.
Did I say they invented it or did I say they will milk it?

Reading comprehension 101 bud.

If something is going to make them money then they are going to do it. People can sit there and say they won't but some of us know damn well they will. ActiVision and Ubisoft are just as bad and the recent price debacle over Dawnguard and the Horse Armour in Oblivion put Bathesda on that map too.

No it's not down to one company but then again those other companies don't have anything to do with SWTOR do they.

Now stop being pedantic.