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Oceanic Servers plans?


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Karasuko
08.20.2012 , 11:20 PM | #21
Quote: Originally Posted by HauksbokT View Post
I should probably apologize for this too, and I probably won't stop soon, cause I'm definately certain this is the way to go for APAC.
I'd love to see a larger community around on master D but its dropping off quite sharply.
The onyl problem I see with a server merge is the fact the pvers don't want to be ganked, at all ever. While i don't have an issue with this myself it will be a technical problem (pvper shards only???)

For me the benefits of losing the ability to kill any imp i chose at will be massively outweighed by a thriving player base like Master D had at the start of xfers.

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vian
08.20.2012 , 11:42 PM | #22
Quote: Originally Posted by HauksbokT View Post
My only issue with them having the choice?
I think it would have to be an all or nothing option. And a heavily moderated /rpchannel.

I have absolutely no experience in a RP server but an issue that springs to mind is say for eg in a WZ. You have a premade of 4 RP'ers and a premade of 4 PVP'ers. I'm a bit of a gambling man, but eventually you'll have a situation where say the RP'ers talked in /ops with some form of RP, and the PVP'ers are like, ROFL *** IS THIS LET'S MAKE FUN OF THIS... People get ignored and that WZ goes to absolute horrible, then incites a *****torm in /1 on the fleet afterwoods.

I know this comes down to trolls being trolls, but I could see things like this happening regularly.

It'd be interesting to hear some RP'ers weigh on this debate imho.
Well, I don't know if I qualify as an RPer, but I'm on Gav Daragon. There's a lot of healthy debate there between premades after WZs, and some are from RPing guilds and some aren't. As long as the chat isn't offensive, it's fine - all part of the game. And if it is offensive or trolling, it gets reported. I'd imagine that'd be the way it was if the servers merged.

This isn't rocket surgery, after all; there's the reporting mechanism and the Ignore button for trolls, of whatever stripe, and those who have nothing better to do than troll roleplayers are no different to any other troll.

Besides, if any particular group in a WZ is more intent on trolling and poking fun rather than actually playing, that might distract them long enough that the RPers can flank them and frag them senseless. So, it's all good.
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vian
08.20.2012 , 11:45 PM | #23
Quote: Originally Posted by BattleGracefully View Post
Yes there will be trolling, its bound to happen, it already happens without the RPers, i myself do it sometimes when im bored but there is ways around it and they are all extreamly effective.
1. Privet channel- this already works wonders with out Endgame channel, it stoped the endless fpg spam
2. ignore- it's there use it, it is your best friend against trolling
3. not in General- seriously if your doing it in general your begging for it, you don't have to roleplay 24/7
4. socialise- having a guild or bunch of friends is more or less how most roleplayers choose to roleplay, rarely do they do it out in the open
5. don't get angry- getting angry just feeds the trolls, they love it when you get angry

all of this will garantee a happy peacefull experiance for anyone not just Roleplayers

Also, This. A good set of rules for RPers and everyone else.
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Didy_Kush
08.20.2012 , 11:56 PM | #24
Quote: Originally Posted by Karasuko View Post
I'd love to see a larger community around on master D but its dropping off quite sharply.
The onyl problem I see with a server merge is the fact the pvers don't want to be ganked, at all ever. While i don't have an issue with this myself it will be a technical problem (pvper shards only???)

For me the benefits of losing the ability to kill any imp i chose at will be massively outweighed by a thriving player base like Master D had at the start of xfers.
Its still so very easy to gank pvers on a pve server.

OT: Merge all into a pvp server PvE is garbage anyway

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Tinman_au
08.21.2012 , 12:20 AM | #25
Quote: Originally Posted by Aztang View Post
Just want to find out what Bioware is planning with the oceanic servers as with the US we are experiencing a declining population which is getting worse and with the launch of GW2 soon its going to push more people away with a lack of people to play with/against.

I feel its pretty late to be bringing this up but I hope Bioware has seen this and planned already for it. I approached the RP server and feel merging the PvE and RP to a PVE-RP server would be best and also allowing transfers from the PvP server to the new amalgamation server would be a great effort at bolstering numbers and confidence in the game.

Bringing together all those who wish to continue playing will be the best effort to put confidence in those who wish to remain with this game until it finds it's feet and until the numbers start returning as so many have shown the intention of coming back at the release of new content and with the maturity of the game coming in time.
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Aztang
08.21.2012 , 12:54 AM | #26
After alot of discussion for the past week with people from all servers I think this will be the best option and in my opinion it should be like this:

PvE-RP server Dalborra, Gav folds and merges RP gets a special chat channel and the ignore button solves all problems.

PvP server remains with the option of transfers going both ways, this is so that we have a PvP server for one day when this game finds it feets the numbers will return and we dotn want to go into server wait times but have the ability to spill over in return to the PvP server.

As with all problems stated above, either solutions are made by individuals or sacrifices will be made as there is nothing but positives outweighing the minor negatives to this server merger.

Please do raise awareness on each individual server as to this thread. With the support of the community hopefully this solution can come into affect to allow those members of the community who wish to continue.

**Also Note** please do not flood this thread with off topic discussion please only state if you support the idea or do not support the idea and give reason's.
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Antiskeptic
08.21.2012 , 12:58 AM | #27
Quote: Originally Posted by Aztang View Post
PvP server remains with the option of transfers going both ways, this is so that we have a PvP server for one day when this game finds it feets the numbers will return and we dotn want to go into server wait times but have the ability to spill over in return to the PvP server.
I disagree with this. You can keep the server and just lock it so no new character can be created on it, I think everyone should be auto transferred to the other server though. No point in keeping half a population on the least populated server out of the three. I mean the PVP server stands to gain the most out of this merger really, it's the least populated by far.

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Koios
08.21.2012 , 01:28 AM | #28
Agreed, a merge is necessary for APAC servers. But I believe they will wait how the population increases with F2P before doing anything.
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Aztang
08.21.2012 , 01:30 AM | #29
Quote: Originally Posted by Antiskeptic View Post
I disagree with this. You can keep the server and just lock it so no new character can be created on it, I think everyone should be auto transferred to the other server though. No point in keeping half a population on the least populated server out of the three. I mean the PVP server stands to gain the most out of this merger really, it's the least populated by far.
Sorry i should have been more clear.

The PvE server and the PvP server remain important too so many people where the PvE people shouldn't be forced onto a server where they are vulnerable to being ganked whereas the PvPers can simply toggle the PvP option and continue to what they are used too so I agree that the PvP server should be locked until the numbers are there to fill both servers. But this is only an option to the PvP server members should they be happy with the positives of a server merge compared to the negatives.
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HauksbokT
08.21.2012 , 01:51 AM | #30
Quote: Originally Posted by Koios View Post
Agreed, a merge is necessary for APAC servers. But I believe they will wait how the population increases with F2P before doing anything.
I think that may be the case too.

But I think this would be a horrendous decision from a business POV.

They're kidding themselves if they don't think GW2 will not have it's hefty amount of unsubbers. I know multiple good guilds that are gonna be heading off Master Dar'Nala, and when this happens, Master Dar'Nala is gonna head south, and in a timely fashion, why Master? Cause predominately it's a PVP orientated servers, GW2 is what is said to be the PVP'ers game. So on top of folks unsubbing cause of GW2, it's gonna make the folks at Master Dar'Nala doomsay, and leave themselves.

Me personally? I love swtor, and I'll 100 percent ride it to death, or glory.

Worst case scenario of merge and f2p becomes successful?

Bioware throws Master Dar'Nala back up, gg. There is really so little cons, and many pro's.