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TOR to sell Stated Gear In FTP cash shop here is our new content after 6 monthes of n

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crunchbarry
08.20.2012 , 03:12 PM | #81
maybe because you should have to pay for an expansion. if its a content patch, no, subscribers shouldn't have to pay. is it a full blown xpac or not? nobody knows. i don't really see why people are complaining about the game going f2p. uh, there is about to be a level increase. f2p is until level 50. it is irrelevant

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MajikMyst
08.20.2012 , 03:22 PM | #82
The sky is falling.. The sky is falling.. OMG the sky is falling..

WOW.. Mid level blues.. The same stuff that drops in mid level flash points or heroics.. Yup.. That is pay to win boys!! Now go kill those mid level mobs while you are leveling to 50.. Did you win??

Give me a break people.. Mid level blues is not pay to win.. You can buy mid level greens from the ingame vendors.. Is that pay to win??

I do wish people would take the time to get their facts straight before starting new threads.. It does reduce the amount of misinformation on the forums..
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Evensong
08.20.2012 , 03:24 PM | #83
How about waiting for the shop to come to game and then complain - if there is reason for it!!!!!!!.
Right now it's just beating the dead horse.
If you guys don't have anything better to do... go outside and watch the sky... the sky is not falling.
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Goretzu
08.20.2012 , 03:25 PM | #84
Quote: Originally Posted by MajikMyst View Post
The sky is falling.. The sky is falling.. OMG the sky is falling..

WOW.. Mid level blues.. The same stuff that drops in mid level flash points or heroics.. Yup.. That is play to win boys!! Now go kill those mid level mobs while you are leveling to 50.. Did you win??

Give me a break people.. Mid level blues is not play to win.. You can buy mid level greens from the ingame vendors.. Is that play to win??

I do wish people would take the time to get their facts straight before starting new threads.. It does the reduce the amount of misinformation on the forums..



You can't buy in game greens for RL cash, you can only buy it for in-game cash which you generate in-game.

That is the HUGE difference.

Pay too Win is about using RL cash to buy in-game advancement, so it would be very much the defination of "P2W".
Real Star Wars space combat please, not Star Wars Fox! Maybe some PvP and flight too?
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Felioats
08.20.2012 , 03:26 PM | #85
In DDO, you can buy some decent -- not great, but decent -- gear for leveling up. And you know what? It's fine. It doesn't affect or unbalance the game at all. No one cares.

I cannot express what a non-issue a cash shop is in games that have done it.
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Goretzu
08.20.2012 , 03:27 PM | #86
Quote: Originally Posted by Evensong View Post
How about waiting for the shop to come to game and then complain - if there is reason for it!!!!!!!.
Right now it's just beating the dead horse.
If you guys don't have anything better to do... go outside and watch the sky... the sky is not falling.
It is no use closing the stable door AFTER the horse is bolted.

(or indeed trying to catch the sky once it is buried IN the ground)
Real Star Wars space combat please, not Star Wars Fox! Maybe some PvP and flight too?
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Goretzu
08.20.2012 , 03:30 PM | #87
Quote: Originally Posted by Felioats View Post
In DDO, you can buy some decent -- not great, but decent -- gear for leveling up. And you know what? It's fine. It doesn't affect or unbalance the game at all. No one cares.

I cannot express what a non-issue a cash shop is in games that have done it.
DDO was always more of a NWN with online play than a traditional MMORPG though.

It was also basically a dead game when it went F2P as well, mostly because it could have been designed for the cashshop rather than subscription payment.
Real Star Wars space combat please, not Star Wars Fox! Maybe some PvP and flight too?
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ForsakenKing
08.20.2012 , 03:32 PM | #88
Buying gear, even lowbie gear (probably similar to the lowbie legacy gear now), was the line they could not cross if i was going to stay. for me, this is P2W <level cap which is the first step toward a P2W game.

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alifaraaz
08.20.2012 , 03:33 PM | #89
No top tier gear sets in my eyes isn't gamebreaking pay to win, since you'll always be able to get better stuff by completing the challenges (i,e Ops or Getting highest PvP valor rank etc)
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ForsakenKing
08.20.2012 , 03:36 PM | #90
Quote: Originally Posted by alifaraaz View Post
No top tier gear sets in my eyes isn't gamebreaking pay to win, since you'll always be able to get better stuff by completing the challenges (i,e Ops or Getting highest PvP valor rank etc)
so every new character you make will be stomped by people who bought their lowbie gear. no thanks. This game has always been about the journey to 50 and now that part is P2W.