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Lower the cost of War Hero and other Higher end gear.

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Lower the cost of War Hero and other Higher end gear.

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Kawiki
08.20.2012 , 03:05 PM | #71
Quote: Originally Posted by The_Raven_Lord View Post
The people who don't think War Hero gear is too expensive, probably got their sets back when they could trade regular commendation for War Hero commendation.
That doesn't sound right...

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Astarica
08.20.2012 , 05:24 PM | #72
Quote: Originally Posted by Kawiki View Post
That doesn't sound right...
What he means is anyone crazy enough to grind a full set of WH when you got to trade 3 to 1 for them obviously isn't going to see their cost as too much now that you can get ranked WZ commendations.

The cost for WH is okay if you assume this is the only set of armor you'll ever grind out. There's certainly no way I'll do it twice.

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DarthOvertone
08.20.2012 , 05:27 PM | #73
Quote: Originally Posted by Astarica View Post
The cost for WH is okay if you assume this is the only set of armor you'll ever grind out. There's certainly no way I'll do it twice.
I'm almost done gearing out my second toon in WH. After that, I'm done. No way am I bothering to do it on a third toon.

Once wasn't so bad. Twice was a bit of a drag. Three times...no way in h*ll.
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Astarica
08.20.2012 , 05:28 PM | #74
Quote: Originally Posted by coerCez View Post
Ahh I am going to enjoy your tearsofQQ when the latest PvP gear is going to be sold in the cash shop for $$.

And yes, if you think they are "just" going to offfer some leveling blues in the cash shop, you are delusional. It is called "testing the waters". Introduce a low impact starter gear first, then gradually work your way towards offering more and more gear. Perfect way to slowly get people used to the idea of selling gear for $$.
Actually no, this is what almost invariably happens:

1. Company announces gear for sale.
2. Guys in full WH quit the game (or claim to) even though they'd still be #1.
3. Eventually the gear sold would be some high blue/low purple gear that costs a stupid amount of money.
4. More people quit (or claim to) due to this perceived injustice.
5. Some guy actually buys the overpriced gear and realizes he still gets smashed by WH characters and quits the game.

In fact, F2P fails because they don't go all the way enough. If I'm crazy enough to spend real money on gear, I expect to be able to buy Conquerer gear right now.

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criminalheretic
08.20.2012 , 05:30 PM | #75
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthOvertone View Post
I'm almost done gearing out my second toon in WH. After that, I'm done. No way am I bothering to do it on a third toon.

Once wasn't so bad. Twice was a bit of a drag. Three times...no way in h*ll.
Currently doing my 3rd. It's painful. Made more painful by the fact that having done it twice, I don't feel like an entitled kid asking for something for nothing, I feel like I already earned it.
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Astarica
08.20.2012 , 05:34 PM | #76
Quote: Originally Posted by criminalheretic View Post
Currently doing my 3rd. It's painful. Made more painful by the fact that having done it twice, I don't feel like an entitled kid asking for something for nothing, I feel like I already earned it.
WH armor should be legacy unlocks, like once you obtain a piece of WH that piece is available for the cost of a BM on all your characters. I can buy this 'one time initiation' thing but I do have other characters that I want to play too.

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Morrolan
08.20.2012 , 05:45 PM | #77
Quote: Originally Posted by WrykilX View Post
If you didn't pvp with a lower level character and just PvE'd your way to 50 and now expect to hop right into level 50 warzones, then it just sucks to be you. Really, the options are there. If you did not take advantage of them, that's just tough. Bioware even took the steps to rework the rewards for the lower level PvP system so that you can get your Warhero Weapon and Battlemaster Offhand, should you be a duel weilding class, IMMEDIATELY upon hitting 50 if you merely just played lower tier pvp even casually while leveling.
Hope you have fun pvping against less and less players because thats whats happening and the grind to win mantra is a large part of it.
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Iwar
08.20.2012 , 07:08 PM | #78
Quote: Originally Posted by WrykilX View Post
Suck it up. Everyone else earned their War Hero gear and you can too! Why do you think you're special and should be allowed to bypass the hardships that everyone else in the game had to endure? We got through it and so can you!

The "Gimme Gimme Now!" sense of entitlement among people today is hilarious.

Did I cover everything?
I agree with you, when u make things to easy to get..people get there items, and get tired of the game and quit. You have to have items and rewards to look forward to. If everything is a hand out, or easy to get..there is nothing rare and fun to go for. And, game subscriptions will decline. Actually ,Warhero is not to hard to get now. That first big patch really catered to short term players. And, made the hard cores a bit frustrated. This is not a console game where u get everything right off the bat..get tired and grab a new game in a year. This game is a MMO...and u have to have rewards, and make some things a little difficult to keep people playing. If everything is made to easy, u will get people in and out of the game quick. I am really hoping we can be awarded for Valor again in some fashion. Every 10 levels..some kind of crystal / weapon. You keep people playing when they can look forward to something.

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Iwar
08.20.2012 , 07:17 PM | #79
Quote: Originally Posted by Yun_Gemstone View Post
When the next set of PvP gear becomes available, you will probably gather the current War Hero set in about a week. Just don't PvP until then

Do you see me complaining about Battlemaster gear? I hit Valor 60 back when Warzones gave pitiful ammount of it, didn't exploit Ilum and grinded the BM tokens bag by bag after bag and so on and so on. Now everyone gets in a casual week what took me months. But its ok
Actually a lot of people were mad about BM gear becoming a hand out. We had a lot of people start to quit when the info on that new patch hit. People should stilll have to go through the process to get rewarded..or else u will not have a population. You just cant make things that easy..you tick everyone off. Getting things to easy ruins MMO's. You might have a lot that complain..but majority likes things rare. So when they mess with that....you will see a decline in players. It makes people mad. Furthermore, when people get items fast..they get tired of the game and quit.

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Iwar
08.20.2012 , 07:26 PM | #80
Quote: Originally Posted by WaldoA View Post
They need to do something about the gear, right now fresh 50s going into PvP is just a disgrace, you die so easily to people in fully augmented WH all the time and there's no enjoyment whatsoever.
It's a MMO. i started out low as well..now I am WARHERO..and things are good. It's not a big deal..you have losses and you work to get better. Just like doing things in real life. You work at something you will get better. Same with the game. I enjoy it..its fun to work for that cool item. Otherwise the game would be boring. People that complain about this stuff..should go play a console game. Console games u pretty much have everything u need. And that is not a insult. MMO's dont quit..u keep playing. That being said, u have plenty of time to reach your goals and to better your character. And you will finnally pickup the gear and be bad ***