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TOR to sell Stated Gear In FTP cash shop here is our new content after 6 monthes of n

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Goretzu
08.20.2012 , 02:39 PM | #71
Quote: Originally Posted by discosoc View Post
I'm sure you'll get to keep the TOR expansions you've paid for when F2P goes live. Just stop acting like your $50 dollar game purchase counts as content that you've paid for. Cancel your sub see how long your "paid" content stays available.
I don't understand why you think I should be please to be sold the same stuff twice........ personally I find it mindboggling that any body would passively accept such a thing.

If they did it like LOTRO, then fair enough, but they aren't.
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08.20.2012 , 02:41 PM | #72
Quote: Originally Posted by PlagaNerezza View Post
The point is the crap gear wont sell. Cosmetic stuff won't sell the equal of 19 bucks a month. So they will have to sell items people actually want to buy. What would you buy? Maybe you'd get 1 or 2 bucks from me for a cool gun or armor set. One time. The only thing you could get people to pay for regularly beyond more content access is buffs and stims. So for 1.99 a month I get unlimited pvp access. For 3.99 I get unlimited pvp stims. For 29.99 I get the pvp winners package.

WH gear for character. Unlimited buffs and stims. Valor rank 70.

It will go quickly to pay to skip to more. Want to buy a lvl 50 any AC? Want to pvp armor? Want to buy pve top armor?

What else would you buy?

Green items. ROTFL. Ok. That is how this will be successful and profitable...


Actually I imagine if they sell green items it will be like this:

Whatever green items you can buy in the cash shop will be 2-5 levels higher than what you can get as a drop (which effectively makes them blue).

This makes them very, very sellable, but also allows them to claim it is "fine" and not "P2W".
Real Star Wars space combat please, not Star Wars Fox! Maybe some PvP and flight too?
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TUXs
08.20.2012 , 02:42 PM | #73
Quote: Originally Posted by Goretzu View Post

Honestly if they eventually start selling raid quality gear I reckon the same people that said SWTOR was perfect on launch, then said it wasn't losing subs hand over fist, then said that it wouldn't go F2P, then said that it was great it WAS going F2P, and then said that it wouldn't go P2W and are now starting to say it would be "OK" if it did go semi-P2W......... would be saying that was fine too (in fact one already has said it ).

I'm beginning to wonder if anything Bioware does to SWTOR can be bad in some peoples eyes.
I know right?! It's almost as if some of them are being paid to post such positive things...I wonder if any are?!
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08.20.2012 , 02:44 PM | #74
Quote: Originally Posted by Goretzu View Post
I'm beginning to wonder if anything Bioware does to SWTOR can be bad in some peoples eyes.
From what I saw in Lotro before I stopped playing and uninstalled it (I was a Lifetimer too) I have no doubt that whatever BW/EA choose to put in the store however OTT it is there will still be a section of the forum community quite happy to justify it and cheer them on to further excess. Also in my opinion pretty much all the content released since they went F2P has been pretty awful and grindy from what I saw. I bought RoI with points saved up from when I was working overseas and couldn't play and got my main to 68 before deciding the new content was so tedious I just couldn't face it anymore.
Cancelled 1/8/12
RIP TOR - Another casualty of F2P

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Pistols
08.20.2012 , 02:47 PM | #75
Quote: Originally Posted by Goretzu View Post
I'm beginning to wonder if anything Bioware does to SWTOR can be bad in some peoples eyes.
EA, not BW.

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MaliksKid
08.20.2012 , 02:54 PM | #76
Even if they sold inheritance and birthright pieces in the shop would it really matter? In pvp sub 50, gear doesn't matter so much to an extent because of the buff. If they sold blue gear, which you can earn better just from playing, would it matter that much. It's an alternative to grinding it out, either to earn the cash to buy it from the GTN or to win it. It's not like it's going to give level 50 gear to a level 10, and even if they did, you would only notice in flashpoints and heroics.

As long as the gear in the shop isn't better than the stuff you can either win or buy who cares. What idiot would lay out real cash for blue level gear anyway?

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EJedi
08.20.2012 , 02:59 PM | #77
Quote: Originally Posted by Marxcyst View Post
As has been stated by many others, I feel betrayed as a longtime (December) subscriber if I'm asked to fork over money for Makeb.
Money? Like $15 per month, or in addition to your $15 per month?

Did you mean you want to stop paying, and still get Makeb?
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Goretzu
08.20.2012 , 03:05 PM | #78
Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs View Post
I know right?! It's almost as if some of them are being paid to post such positive things...I wonder if any are?!
Who knows.

Quote: Originally Posted by AidenCast View Post
From what I saw in Lotro before I stopped playing and uninstalled it (I was a Lifetimer too) I have no doubt that whatever BW/EA choose to put in the store however OTT it is there will still be a section of the forum community quite happy to justify it and cheer them on to further excess. Also in my opinion pretty much all the content released since they went F2P has been pretty awful and grindy from what I saw. I bought RoI with points saved up from when I was working overseas and couldn't play and got my main to 68 before deciding the new content was so tedious I just couldn't face it anymore.
Yeah the content level definately dropped post F2P, not only more grindy, but also nothing much new (until mounted combat).

Quote: Originally Posted by Pistols View Post
EA, not BW.
Bioware EA, it's all there is now.
Real Star Wars space combat please, not Star Wars Fox! Maybe some PvP and flight too?
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Evensong
08.20.2012 , 03:08 PM | #79
I watched all interview. What he said was that they might sell blue mid level gear to help players leveling.
No nodded gear was mentioned. No end game gear was mentioned.

No big deal.
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Goretzu
08.20.2012 , 03:11 PM | #80
Quote: Originally Posted by Evensong View Post
I watched all interview. What he said was that they might sell blue mid level gear to help players leveling.
No nodded gear was mentioned. No end game gear was mentioned.

No big deal.
Nothing is ever mentioned........ until the very moment it IS mentioned.
Real Star Wars space combat please, not Star Wars Fox! Maybe some PvP and flight too?
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