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Lower the cost of War Hero and other Higher end gear.

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Lower the cost of War Hero and other Higher end gear.

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Nomerath
08.20.2012 , 12:03 PM | #61
Not to sound like a zen master or anything but it's not all about the goal, it's about the journey, if you like pvp then you'll do the wz no matter what, even if it is in 1-5% less effective gear.

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coerCez
08.20.2012 , 12:06 PM | #62
Quote: Originally Posted by Nomerath View Post
Not to sound like a zen master or anything but it's not all about the goal, it's about the journey, if you like pvp then you'll do the wz no matter what, even if it is in 1-5% less effective gear.
This is so not true. I enjoy PvP, I don't enjoy being thron into PvP with ****** gear.

for the record all of my toons have about half WH and I legacy mail enhancements back and forth. Yet, I still think Gear Progression has no place in PvP whatsoever. It blows my mind that these so called PvP players enjoy gear progression. Gear Progression is for pixel Dragonslayers and not for the true PvP player swho enjoy skill based combat rather then Gear Advantage,
Sapphir - 50 Marauder
Coerce - 50 Operative
Colgerro - 50 Powertech

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Skullbash
08.20.2012 , 12:15 PM | #63
I get a kick out of you guys that act like you somehow "earn your stripes" by mindlessly grinding instanced pvp in a video game, it isn't supposed to be work people, it's just a pain in the *** and a transparent, lazy attempt to keep everyone paying.

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Katsuragisama
08.20.2012 , 12:17 PM | #64
Quote: Originally Posted by LarryRow View Post
The irony here is that you were never really facing people who out-geared you but you still felt cheated by the system and I can't blame you. Gear grinds just suck.


Thanks! Now I'd say we should start working on WrykilX, but he's just so butthurt.
Exactly. The only moment I actually remember is beating someone from the Republic side, of a rival guild. His Shadow vs my Assassin. Both of us in Battlemaster gear as this was before War Hero was released. I felt he was pretty skilled, and so he was always someone I would try to attack, even chase if we were already winning. I managed to run into him under the middle of Civil War, and we fought it out. Conclusion: I won with 78%~ of my HP left. But still the best time I had in PvP.

Skilled player vs skilled player, both with equal gear. That's how it should be. I love that competitive spirit. Gear grinds, ruin that. And that's why I look forward to GW2, in hopes to find more people with the same mentality. Not this swinging epeen with a gear crutch mentality.
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When you are six hours into playing Battlefield and you run out of ammo in your clip, and we ask you for a dollar to reload, you're really not very price sensitive at that point in time... We're not gouging, but we're charging.

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Anishor
08.20.2012 , 12:26 PM | #65
I PVP to defeat my opponents, not to gear out my toons.
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Katsuragisama
08.20.2012 , 01:37 PM | #66
Quote: Originally Posted by coerCez View Post
Ahh I am going to enjoy your tearsofQQ when the latest PvP gear is going to be sold in the cash shop for $$.

And yes, if you think they are "just" going to offfer some leveling blues in the cash shop, you are delusional. It is called "testing the waters".
Introduce a low impact starter gear first, then gradually work your way towards offering more and more gear. Perfect way to slowly get people used to the idea of selling gear for $$.
I saw this and had to quote for truth. They already tested the waters in February to see how people felt about paying for Makeb, Cathar, and various other things.

Thread found here: Everyone forgets the survey.....
Quote: Originally Posted by John Riccitiello, Electronic Arts Inc. - CEO
When you are six hours into playing Battlefield and you run out of ammo in your clip, and we ask you for a dollar to reload, you're really not very price sensitive at that point in time... We're not gouging, but we're charging.

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DarthBloodloss
08.20.2012 , 02:00 PM | #67
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthDeimos View Post
140 comms per win ( my average )
Shenanigans!

What about those voidstar wins that give you 80? Since 140 is your average, are you able to hit 200 comms, to average out with the 80?
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Pizzel
08.20.2012 , 02:06 PM | #68
Pvp should be about the competition. U cant deny that most games are blowouts. Only rateds are competitive and even those open other cans of worms.

Fact is this game will be going thru an overhaul. If making pvp more balanced is a goal then reducing costs and time on gear should happen.

Just add more cosmetic fluff to compensate

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Zunayson
08.20.2012 , 02:10 PM | #69
Quote: Originally Posted by PowerReaper View Post
Everyone had to work for the gear, can't you get it through your thick skull?
You got to progress, we have to get slaughtered.

I'd have no problem if I played equally geared folks, and it would just take a long time. I'd have no problem if slaughtering lowly-geared people didn't give me comms to get WH.

I have a problem with getting roflstomped by someone due to a statistical advantage. There's no chance for me to win.

Take your favorite FOTM class in recruit gear vs my full augmented and optimized WH scoundrel scrapper (Hypothetical)... You have no chance. I dont care how good you think you are, not how bad you think I am. The fact is that the gear gap between fully aug'd and optimized WH vs recruit is just... pitiful.
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The_Raven_Lord
08.20.2012 , 02:17 PM | #70
The people who don't think War Hero gear is too expensive, probably got their sets back when they could trade regular commendation for War Hero commendation.
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