They are already discussing milking the subscribers

But how do they justify removing content from subscribers one they stop subbing?

Under the LOTRO model subscribers KEPT all the content they had when they were subscribers once the game went F2P.

SWTOR is saying it will remove content from subscribers that stop subbing.

Which again makes it seem like a gouging have your cake and eat it model (for EA), by trying to hit players for stuff they should already own.

It had 2 paid expansions by the time it went F2P, the 2nd was just before it went F2P.

But people that had bought all that got to keep all that.

The also got to keep free zones that had been brought in as part of the books IIRC.

Moria - paid
Mirkwood - paid
Enedwaith - free
Rise of Isengard - paid

If you went FTP yolu lost access to some areas/quests you had access to with a paid sub.

I know the fans will come in and say... well its an expansion, of course we should pay extra for it. Sorry but 1 planet and a 5 level increase is not an expansion. Its a way to justify milking more money. This is the type of content that we should have gotten all along.

It had 2 paid expansions by the time it went F2P, the 2nd was just before it went F2P.

But people that had bought all that got to keep all that.

The also got to keep free zones that had been brought in as part of the books IIRC.

That is incorrect, or at least not an accurate argument. Read section 14 for more information.

hmmm 1 planet and 5 levels is pretty much what i would expect as an expansion imo (ala wow, lotro etc)
pretty standard mmo business

You're right, it was right after the 2nd expansion, not before.

At any rate, people kept access to the expansions that they paid for, which is exactly my point. The core game because free, but expansions were not. You had to pay for the expansions or have previously paid for them.

TOR has no expansions yet, and the core game is going to be free. The main difference is Bioware is limiting end game content for anyone who does not subscribe, which makes sense. There's nothing keeping you from subscribing and going about your MMO life as if nothing changed. In the event that you decide to stop, you still get to play the game, whereas if you were to stop now, you wouldn't even have that option.

Siege of Mirkwood was paid for and you kept it too didn't you?
You kept access to the vanilla game too, all MoM, and the free zones already in too didn't you?

Which areas did you lose access too that you'd had access too before as a subscriber when it went F2P?

I assume you are actually referring to Section 13, rather than 14 since 14 is the Export Control Laws.

That being said, it is still correct as Section 13 of the ToS says specifically that if you purchased the game then the terms of the EUALA apply.

So, I was still correct in my first argument.