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If it's vanity items I don't care. If if it's anything beyond vanity (content or items that are BiS) then I will unsub.

And it sounds like Bioware is going to impose roughly the same restrictions. The two games are not exactly equal, however. LotRO has very different PvP, since it's a 1-faction game. Creating a monster character for PvP is available to former subscribers, but they are limited to 1 class out of the 7, i think, available. That's not 1 class of their choice either, it's just the basic fighter orc class.

If, as a prior subscriber, you had purchased Mines of Moria, then you were also grandfathered in for that content after F2P. Stuff like restricted bag space, the gold limit, auction house limits, and skirmishes were still restricted to you as a free player, even if you had previously been a subscriber.

That's roughly in line with what Bioware is talking about. If you stop subscribing, you can still play 1-50. You can still run flashpoints, but i think HM's and new flashpoints wouldn't be available. Operations you can't do. Bag space is limited, etc..

Did they change it? I haven't played LotRO in a year, but when I did my "premium" account didn't have access to the quests in half the SoA zones.

Unfortunately, TOR's model (so far) looks more like AoC's model, which sucks horribly.

So far Bioware has mention "limiting" character slots per server, bag space, AH, Travel, FPs, space missions and PvP for subs that go to F2P, and no OPs at all.

Must be that way then, you've got to buy stuff twice.

F2P is more horrible than I thought then.


If it's AoC then SWTOR subs that go F2P might well lose access to all their mounts too.

As a fellow LotRO....QFT

The lack of a Dev or Community Manager reply in here is scary.

I am what you'd call a Fanboy and maybe I should just avoid the forums because y'all tend to always assume the worst. I have returned to SWTOR, and in the span of three weeks reached 50 on a new toon, less than a week after that I had full Columni, and within a week I had full Rakata. Now of course that is based on years of MMO healing experience and good luck that I was able to get into some Ops and the gear I needed happened to drop over several nights, but still, I was able to reach the "raid geared" level in less than 30 days with a brand new toon.

That is way too fast. I am a fanboy, but I am frustrated. I own a company and I work 50 hours a week, but I was still able to come home at night, get a couple of levels, and raid at 7pm.

As the "new guy" having played at launch but was turned off by the Tanking mechanics and quit before my 28th day was up on my free month, I am frustrated. I want to believe in the future of this game, but the sheer volume of these OMG IT'S PAY2WIN threads is incredible. It's like there is no community management being done here whatsoever.

There is a severe break in communication between the community team and the producers who are making these decisions. I have faith in BioWare and in the future of this game, but when threads like this pop up and get no attention to even clarify that the comment was taken out of context (which I think it was) is incredibly scary.

This all really looks like y'all are asleep at the wheel up there and that is not the way to keep me paying.

Not at all. Anything you purchase through the cash shop is unlocked forever. Being a VIP, however, does not give you access to any content other than the original game, Shadows of Angmar. So if you are a VIP, and you level to 50, you would need to purchase the Mines of Moria pack to be able to go any further. As a VIP, you were getting free Turbine Points each month though, so by the time you get to that point, you probably has enough TP saved up to either make MoM free or very cheap. Same thing for all additional content.



Correct. You wouldn't lose the extra characters, but when you stop subscribing, you will be asked which characters you want to be active.

No. Once you purchase something, it's yours forever. Remember, by default, being a VIP just means you have unrestricted access to the core game. Extra content, like expansions, still need to be purchased. Being VIP makes purchasing the content significantly cheaper though, and sometimes free, due to the free Turbine Points you get each month.

If they were smart, they would find out what armor models are the most highly sought after (supreme inquisitor's robe, vendetta, etc) and make them available on the cartel shop

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