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If Makeb is truly and expansion pack sized update I really don't see what the issue is. You still have to look at this a sub based game with a F2P option.

could this title be even worst ..lol

Wow...

A lotta content huh?! Versus what we have?! I really hope they just sell it...that'll make my choice so much easier.

Funny... I was just thinking that...

What else is there to prove?

They quite clearly say they haven't decided yet, which means (unsurprisingly)..... they haven't decided (but they are thinking about charging subscribers for it).

So quite clearly at this moment (dispite what they have said previously ) Makeb will not be free to subscribers, it only might be, IF indeed they eventually decide that.

So presently subscribers may very well have to pay for Makeb.

Yup. The fact that they haven't 'decided' speaks volumes of what they feel about their current customers. All the promises of better, bigger and more frequent updates was all a lie.

That's just it, they certainly implied, if not explicitly stated that Makeb would be free to subscribers under the "F2P/cashshop" model.

Now they have every right to change their mind, it's their game and their content, but then so do players intending to subscribe under that model have every right to be angry that the goal posts are being moved already.

It's one thing to be told "this is your journey" it's another to realise that at any point along that route everything from the destination to the route itself might well be changed without warning.

Things need to be explicitly stated so customers can make an informed choice, not told one thing one day and another on another day.

It's an MMO, so how can you "win?"

Now, if the only realistic way to get the gear needed for end-game progression was through a cash shop, then yes, it would be pay to win. If a cash shop offers stuff for sell that you could normally obtain in game through normal play (not months and months of grinding, for example), then it's not pay to win. It's simply selling stuff to people too lazy to work for it. I'd hardly call those people winners.

If someone is dumb enough and/or has enough disposable income to drop $20 on a set of leveling gear that they're going to outlevel in a couple hours of play, well then more power to them. If they start selling raid gear or PvP gear higher than Recruit in the cash shop, I'm done.

Unless Makeb and whatever else comes with it is equal to a "normal" expansion in size, it better free for subscribers, or I'm done. WTH would be the point of subscribing if I have to pay for content like a F2Per would?

i would pay for makeb, if it was like $1.99. based on this game so far, 1 planet would be a poor excuse for an expansion.