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Lower the cost of War Hero and other Higher end gear.

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Lower the cost of War Hero and other Higher end gear.

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Ramtar
08.20.2012 , 11:11 AM | #51
No way. Work for it. People that endure the grind; Reap the rewards.

I have 3500 Ranked WZ comms and 2000 WZ comms in the bank, and today I dinged level 49 (49 Valor) on my Sentinel. Going to start building up my credit pool to buy my augmentations.

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Givemedanger
08.20.2012 , 11:16 AM | #52
Quote: Originally Posted by Kawiki View Post
That would be a fail system as very few would actually do it.
Failed how? Because so little people are doing team ranked? Getting 8 people in full wh/augmented gear is not easy not to mention all having the right roles/classes (must/should be op classes ofc). Playing all day and losing to the same "enemy" team is no fun at all. But solo ranked should be easier. No premades sound awsome to me. Some people actually like competition. There should be a ladder anyway. Just like in starcraft/warcraft games.

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LarryRow
08.20.2012 , 11:21 AM | #53
Quote: Originally Posted by Katsuragisama View Post
This is my story, in a nice list format.
  1. Hit level 50, start grinding for Centurion/Champion tier.
  2. By the time I hit Valor 60, I had a ful Champion set.
  3. Worked on Battlemaster set, and then got another set since it was announced that without the original mods, you wouldnt get the expertise upgrade in 1.2.
  4. Got a full Battlemaster set, I think I was 74, so I grinded my way up to Valor 80 Conqueror cause I was still having fun.
  5. War Hero is released, and it's an even longer grind than Battlemaster was. And the pride of having Battlemaster is null and void, since now Battlemaster is easy as hell to get, with like 12,000 WZ comms total.
  6. Start grinding War Hero gear, and realize it will become just as cheap and easy to get as Battlemaster, once Champion War Hero is released.
  7. Took a break and came back two months later.
  8. Noticed all of the glaring and boring flaws of having a gear grind, stun fest PvP game.
The irony here is that you were never really facing people who out-geared you but you still felt cheated by the system and I can't blame you. Gear grinds just suck.

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Thanks! Now I'd say we should start working on WrykilX, but he's just so butthurt.
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LarryRow
08.20.2012 , 11:30 AM | #54
Quote: Originally Posted by WrykilX View Post
the difference between you and I is that I don't think I'm entitled to the same rewards as other players who put in a greater effort....

...So stop your delusional sense of entitlement waterworks about how you should have the same rewards as another player who probably puts in twice the amount of your time and effort...
lol

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FYI, I have been playing since launch, have characters in full war hero and characters in recruit. The entry level gear gap is stupid and unfun for people trying to break into level 50 pvp (who spent the leveling process actually questing and not grinding comms). Read what you are quoting and think before making unfounded assumptions next time you post.

Edit: It's also pretty funny that you think you should win because you play more, not because you play better.
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SithBongious
08.20.2012 , 11:32 AM | #55
Quote: Originally Posted by Ramtar View Post
No way. Work for it. People that endure the grind; Reap the rewards.

I have 3500 Ranked WZ comms and 2000 WZ comms in the bank, and today I dinged level 49 (49 Valor) on my Sentinel. Going to start building up my credit pool to buy my augmentations.
Noob. The entire point the OP was raising is that competing in 500-900 PVP matches to attain the best gear, VS full Campaign gear in under 1 week is a bit unbalanced.

Case in point - You have 3500 Ranked WZ and 2000 Comms and you just dinged 49. Congrats. 99% of the SWTOR base did that, its called pre-50 pvp.

Entering 50 pvp with your 5500 comms is not impressive when you meet 8 x War Hero 100 Valor players - this is too unbalanced, and taking 500-900 PVP matches to earn 14 pieces of gear is a bit much.

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Pizzel
08.20.2012 , 11:35 AM | #56
I like how people that are fully geared say to earn it and put in your time blah blah. Thats garbage and doesnt help the future of this game. The games going F2p. Obviously the system didnt work.

In 6 days this game is about to take possibly its biggest exodus yet. Why make possible new players not have fun sooner in PvP ??

I say lower the costs. The only people who dont want this are the people who need the edge.

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Creedys
08.20.2012 , 11:38 AM | #57
To the Original Poster:

It takes less time than that. You are not including the daily and weekly. Dailies earn you 100 Rated comms (that's 700 a week), and the weekly earns you another 300. Do those, and you get 1,000 rated comms a week from QUESTS.

Please stop complaining.

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WrykilX
08.20.2012 , 11:43 AM | #58
Quote: Originally Posted by LarryRow View Post
lol

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FYI, I have been playing since launch, have characters in full war hero and characters in recruit. The entry level gear gap is stupid and unfun for people trying to break into level 50 pvp (who spent the leveling process actually questing and not grinding comms). Read what you are quoting and think before making unfounded assumptions next time you post.
The gear gap of what? The whole week it would take casual pvper to get a set of Battlemaster and augment it out? My heart bleeds.

If you didn't pvp with a lower level character and just PvE'd your way to 50 and now expect to hop right into level 50 warzones, then it just sucks to be you. Really, the options are there. If you did not take advantage of them, that's just tough. Bioware even took the steps to rework the rewards for the lower level PvP system so that you can get your Warhero Weapon and Battlemaster Offhand, should you be a duel weilding class, IMMEDIATELY upon hitting 50 if you merely just played lower tier pvp even casually while leveling.

When the new gear comes out, they will wait a patch and make today's Battlemaster the equivalent of War Hero. Until then, I hope your local convenience store is in walking distance so you don't blow all your gas money on kleenex runs.

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Kawiki
08.20.2012 , 11:44 AM | #59
Quote: Originally Posted by Givemedanger View Post
Failed how? Because so little people are doing team ranked? Getting 8 people in full wh/augmented gear is not easy not to mention all having the right roles/classes (must/should be op classes ofc). Playing all day and losing to the same "enemy" team is no fun at all. But solo ranked should be easier. No premades sound awsome to me. Some people actually like competition. There should be a ladder anyway. Just like in starcraft/warcraft games.
It's simple - if you don't reward people they will not do it. The only reason you have more then a couple teams per server queueing now is pugs that want the rated comms.

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coerCez
08.20.2012 , 11:50 AM | #60
Quote: Originally Posted by WrykilX View Post
The gear gap of what? The whole week it would take casual pvper to get a set of Battlemaster and augment it out? My heart bleeds.

If you didn't pvp with a lower level character and just PvE'd your way to 50 and now expect to hop right into level 50 warzones, then it just sucks to be you. Really, the options are there. If you did not take advantage of them, that's just tough. Bioware even took the steps to rework the rewards for the lower level PvP system so that you can get your Warhero Weapon and Battlemaster Offhand, should you be a duel weilding class, IMMEDIATELY upon hitting 50 if you merely just played lower tier pvp even casually while leveling.

When the new gear comes out, they will wait a patch and make today's Battlemaster the equivalent of War Hero. Until then, I hope your local convenience store is in walking distance so you don't blow all your gas money on kleenex runs.
Ahh I am going to enjoy your tearsofQQ when the latest PvP gear is going to be sold in the cash shop for $$.

And yes, if you think they are "just" going to offfer some leveling blues in the cash shop, you are delusional. It is called "testing the waters". Introduce a low impact starter gear first, then gradually work your way towards offering more and more gear. Perfect way to slowly get people used to the idea of selling gear for $$.
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