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10 races that are better than Cathar.

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Tuscad
08.19.2012 , 01:51 AM | #121
Quote: Originally Posted by Okamion View Post
Incompatible voices, no rights, periodic memory wipes. Nope, not optional.
You are mistaken, droids can gain rights by using fear as a weapon like IG-88 did. Memory wipes have nothing to do with it as a simple conflicting error in programming can cause it (like being supposed to kill and protect the same person). Voice doesn't matter being a droid is just a feature. A lot of the dialogue in the game is broken with the legacy species feature: Sith Purebloods are referred to humans in the Jedi Knight story for instance, also the people playing aren't going to care they would be stoked at being able to play a droid.

It wouldn't be canon and therefore doesn't need to fit. Heck Bioware could have someone come in and do a few lines like: "Affirmative" "Negative" "Roger" "Engaging Assassination Protocols" "Clarify" "As you wish" and "Task Accomplished", this would work in nearly every situation and wouldn't take a lot of time.
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DreamEagle
08.19.2012 , 02:04 AM | #122
Droids could work. Some have their own personalities and are NOT property...... just ask the Jedi knight about T7. Or to use some good old fashioned G-cannon, C3PO and R2D2.

Not to mention the fact that George had originally made Star Wars to be the story of R2 and 3PO's adventures. He only made it more about the human characters after getting input from his editors and others who needed to like his books in order to get them published.

So there should be no problem doing droid PC's from a lore point of view. And from a voice over point of view that would not be that hard either. There are multiple types of voice altering pedals that singers can use. It should not be hard to make an application that could apply some sort of voice modulation to the existing voice overs.

That said, I will list my top 3 choices for race..based purely on what I want..not on how easy to implement.

Wookiee,Droid and I think togruta are the ones like master kiwiks and anakin's padawan in clone troopers?

personally I had hoped that this game would have started with all the races that were in SWG as well as some of the new ones they did add like miraluka that I had never heard of. Not sure if they came from KOTOR lore or what?

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Beans_of_steel
08.19.2012 , 02:08 AM | #123
Quote: Originally Posted by Tuscad View Post
You are mistaken, droids can gain rights by using fear as a weapon like IG-88 did. Memory wipes have nothing to do with it as a simple conflicting error in programming can cause it (like being supposed to kill and protect the same person). Voice doesn't matter being a droid is just a feature. A lot of the dialogue in the game is broken with the legacy species feature: Sith Purebloods are referred to humans in the Jedi Knight story for instance, also the people playing aren't going to care they would be stoked at being able to play a droid.

It wouldn't be canon and therefore doesn't need to fit. Heck Bioware could have someone come in and do a few lines like: "Affirmative" "Negative" "Roger" "Engaging Assassination Protocols" "Clarify" "As you wish" and "Task Accomplished", this would work in nearly every situation and wouldn't take a lot of time.
Aye, wotc's pen n paper rpg featured an independant droid class added by popular demand, due to the popularity of independant droids, like ig88, guri, and proxy, i woldnt b the least bit surprised if the same thing happened with swtor.

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Beans_of_steel
08.19.2012 , 02:46 AM | #124
Quote: Originally Posted by Okamion View Post
Incompatible voices, no rights, periodic memory wipes. Nope, not optional.
No rights, how do you explain the droid rebellion then? Am pretty sure thats canon.

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Malastare
08.19.2012 , 06:46 AM | #125
Quote: Originally Posted by Beans_of_steel View Post
No rights, how do you explain the droid rebellion then? Am pretty sure thats canon.
Yes it is... and its 3000 years in the future for SWTOR.

Remember: This game is set fully in the EU. This was done to completely detach it from any of the events in the movies. Furthermore, it doesn't use the somewhat restricted atmosphere of the movies (extremely polar, everyone on a side agrees, pure democracy vs. authoritarianism), but the more realistic style used by EU books and the Clone Wars series.

If the game is going to look for inspiration on things to add, the movies aren't where its going to go. It's going to look first and foremost at other EU stories set in the 3000BBY area.

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kirorx
08.19.2012 , 07:42 AM | #126
Quote: Originally Posted by Beans_of_steel View Post
Ya lazy. Record more voices.
The funny thing is they dont even have to record more voices to add alot of species. For Duro for example all they have to do is add a slight reverb effect to the voice over.

I have been producing music for nearly 15 years and i can say that altering sounds or voices to make them sound a bit more alien or different woudl not be that hard.

As far as Cathar, its odd that voice over wont be changed. The Cathar Jedi on Tyhon had a pretty strong accent and honsetly if he had the typical jedi knight voice we get it would sound out of place.

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Fyurii
08.19.2012 , 09:28 AM | #127
Quote: Originally Posted by kirorx View Post
As far as Cathar, its odd that voice over wont be changed. The Cathar Jedi on Tyhon had a pretty strong accent and honsetly if he had the typical jedi knight voice we get it would sound out of place.
I've heard three other Cathar voices (one was part of a quest on Ord Mantell, the second is on Republic Taris near/in Olaris spaceport) where they didn't have an accent like the Cathar Jedi Master on Tython.
Of course, there's Aric Jorgan the first Trooper companion. Doesn't have an accent like that Jedi Master either.
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kirorx
08.19.2012 , 09:42 AM | #128
Quote: Originally Posted by Fyurii View Post
I've heard three other Cathar voices (one was part of a quest on Ord Mantell, the second is on Republic Taris near/in Olaris spaceport) where they didn't have an accent like the Cathar Jedi Master on Tython.
Of course, there's Aric Jorgan the first Trooper companion. Doesn't have an accent like that Jedi Master either.
Very true, i just think the available jedi knight voice sounds, i think that about using a sith pureblood with jedi knight voice as well though, but that one is an unlock.

Not really a big deal or anything, just sounds weird. On the flip side of unlocks i think twi'lek agents sound awesome.

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Temeluchus
08.19.2012 , 10:28 AM | #129
Quote: Originally Posted by Jarlgon View Post
What about the most famous of Wookies, Chewbucca, he had a Jedi nephew.
Lowbacca was a Force using Wookiee. George Lucas quickly moved in and said no more Force moving Wookiees in Star Wars.Ever.Period.

I've heard people make the argument that since our character's names,species,sex aren't canon only their deeds are that technically playing as a Wookiee or Yoda's species wouldn't break Luca's ban on them. This might be true but I don't see Lucas Arts allowing BW to use that loophole.
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Beans_of_steel
08.19.2012 , 11:03 AM | #130
Quote: Originally Posted by Malastare View Post
Yes it is... and its 3000 years in the future for SWTOR.

Remember: This game is set fully in the EU. This was done to completely detach it from any of the events in the movies. Furthermore, it doesn't use the somewhat restricted atmosphere of the movies (extremely polar, everyone on a side agrees, pure democracy vs. authoritarianism), but the more realistic style used by EU books and the Clone Wars series.

If the game is going to look for inspiration on things to add, the movies aren't where its going to go. It's going to look first and foremost at other EU stories set in the 3000BBY area.
ok what about the various renegade droids u encounter throught the game?
Also its set 3000 years before so they could be more free to take whatever direction they wanted, they even added there own version of yoda.