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They are already discussing milking the subscribers

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Styxx
08.19.2012 , 09:27 AM | #121
Quote: Originally Posted by mothear View Post
So what do you use your cartel coins for. Do you expect free pets etc?

Are you expecting to be given free fluff, because that is what you should be paying for, in my opinion?
I will use them for whatever I will see fit, but this is not the discussion at hand.

And I AM paying 15$ a month, btw.. and will keep paying 15$ a month. So, no.. I am not given anything for free.
Quote: Originally Posted by John Riccitiello View Post
When you are six hours into playing Battlefield and you run out of ammo in your clip, and we ask you for a dollar to reload, you're really not very price sensitive at that point in time...We're not gouging, but we're charging.

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mothear
08.19.2012 , 09:30 AM | #122
Quote: Originally Posted by Digimanbyte_ID View Post
WoW for example is the hugest glutton for paying for nothing and then paying for expansions.
In WoW you only play for convenience above the subscription.

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Ratior
08.19.2012 , 09:38 AM | #123
Well, EA is a listed company. It's objective is to make money and keep shareholders happy.

I believe in caveat emptor. The customer has to be aware of what he is buying into. If one is happy to pay $15 per month for whatever he is getting, so be it.

I won't be happy to continue paying to play SWTOR, but I will probably be happy to pay for virtual goods in GW2, since my view ATM is that I will benefit in doing so.

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TheSeventhJedi
08.19.2012 , 09:41 AM | #124
Quote: Originally Posted by Jetronin View Post
The have said repeatedly that subscribers will not have to pay for new content. That transcript says nothing about Makeb that would make me believe differently.
They also said repeatedly that they didn't want tons of people ganging up on one big boss because it wasn't heroic. They said there would be wildly divergent endings to Mass Effect, and that it wouldn't be an A, B, or C choice. If there's anything I've learned about BioWare, it's to not bother with what the devs say. At best, they're fickle. More likely, they're akin to politicians who tell us what we want to hear, but then do their own thing once they're elected.
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mothear
08.19.2012 , 09:42 AM | #125
Quote: Originally Posted by Styxx View Post
I will use them for whatever I will see fit, but this is not the discussion at hand.

And I AM paying 15$ a month, btw.. and will keep paying 15$ a month. So, no.. I am not given anything for free.
Actually it is the discussion in this thread.

People are stating that in order to play the game it looks like they will have to pay extra above their subscription, this worries me too. However if F2P had never come into existence there would not be XP boost potions, free travel perks (outside of legacy).

If BW provide the same options via legacy that are available to subscribers to work towards, if they don't want to buy them, then putting all new content on the cash shop is not an issue as long as the monthly stipend covers the cost.

Just because someone wants an extra boost on top of their legacy, or doesn't want to spend the time unlocking their legacy doesn't mean that they should be get these for free, this is what subscribers should be paying for in my opinion. This way your $15 allows you to either take short cuts or allows you unrestricted access to all new content.

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liammozz
08.19.2012 , 09:47 AM | #126
put it this way the only time am dishing out money for new content is when they move the story on to chapters 4,5 and 6 and if there's less than those three chapters in the next xpac i wound pe buying it full stop

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Styxx
08.19.2012 , 10:07 AM | #127
Quote: Originally Posted by mothear View Post
Actually it is the discussion in this thread.

People are stating that in order to play the game it looks like they will have to pay extra above their subscription, this worries me too. However if F2P had never come into existence there would not be XP boost potions, free travel perks (outside of legacy).

If BW provide the same options via legacy that are available to subscribers to work towards, if they don't want to buy them, then putting all new content on the cash shop is not an issue as long as the monthly stipend covers the cost.

Just because someone wants an extra boost on top of their legacy, or doesn't want to spend the time unlocking their legacy doesn't mean that they should be get these for free, this is what subscribers should be paying for in my opinion. This way your $15 allows you to either take short cuts or allows you unrestricted access to all new content.
The ONLY way to see the subscription, in my opinion, is get access to EVERYTHING, except the Cash Shop, by default. This means any new patch it is automatically "unlocked" for sub playing players. Not bought in Legacy for ingame money. Not bought outside Legacy via DLC. Not bought with Cartel Coins in ANY circumstance. Freemiums will have to buy it, or convert to sub and have it by default. Because NONE of this is new content, so it shouldn`t be sold as Expansion. And even if they WOULD ... it`s well covered by a 15$ monthly fee, in a game that gives for free it`s best feature.

The Cartel Coins are the PRIZE, or the "bonus", for still keeping a sub. They are not and should not be seen as "mandatory save up for future content". They should be spent at the player`s leisure, without fear of needing them at a future date, for one new op, or race.

http://www.swtor.com/support/helpcenter/6469 - says unlimited access.
And because it is about time they put money where their mouth is.
Quote: Originally Posted by John Riccitiello View Post
When you are six hours into playing Battlefield and you run out of ammo in your clip, and we ask you for a dollar to reload, you're really not very price sensitive at that point in time...We're not gouging, but we're charging.

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DragonAgeOrgins
08.19.2012 , 10:26 AM | #128
Blizzard milk's most of the people out of everyone that i know. They charge 25 dollars for a flying mount and people STILL pay on top of their sub. For some glowing thingty. The truth is. Most of us would gladly pay for something that boosted our EXP.

We just don't want to have to grind anymore. I am tired of SAME side quests. Maybe they should have made side quests separate and different based on your class. I would be encouraged to do them. But it's same people with same problems and makes it less exciting when you know what to do.

For 150 million dollar game. Would separate side quests based on class. Been too much ask for? maybe shrink the pool of side quests people if it was.

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Rafkin
08.19.2012 , 10:27 AM | #129
Quote: Originally Posted by SveinEternity View Post
Know would be a good time for AllisonBerrymen to drop in hint hint....
Are we sure AllisonBerrymen isn't actually Jeff Hickman?

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Shikyo
08.19.2012 , 10:28 AM | #130
I have to agree with the concerned crowd on this one.
I for one LOVE the game! Have from day 1 and it's only gotten better in my eyes.

That said, F2P did make me a little bummed but experiencing the conversion from DCUO I thought, "well this doesn't really impact me too much because I will maintain my subscription and still get to enjoy the game as I always have."

Then I too saw the interview with the fact the makeb content is being discussed whether or not it will sell to both premium and freebies and I thought, "Wow, what is really separating me from the freebies? A cartel coin advance every month? Access to my bank slots(which freebies will be able to pay to add)? This is the stuff I've been paying for since launch!"

Now a true expansion, another full games worth of content, I'd be a little more understanding about paying for as for without F2P we'd still be paying for a true expansion but I'd like a discount on purchase at least since this is now a F2P game.

Makeb does not even remotely look like a true expansion to me, then again what have they actually shown us of it to make us believe otherwise? Other then "it's huge! I think you all will love it!"

TLDR:
Love the game and the prospect of paying for content updates such as makeb (not a expansion) as a premium member does concern me and will most definitely increase my hatred of EA and the people running the business side of the game. Will it be enough to make me quit the game I currently love? Don't know, guess I'll find out when it happens. Emotions can be fickle things
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