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Gamescom Interview with Jeff Hickman about the future of SWTOR

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Gamescom Interview with Jeff Hickman about the future of SWTOR

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Durasturan
08.18.2012 , 04:56 PM | #81
Quote: Originally Posted by Flying-Brian View Post
So how does the selling of blue gear effect the balance of low-level pvp, when the f2p players, who are the target market for buying said blue gear, will only be allowed access to like 1 warzone per day?
because warzones are not the only way players encounter each other in this game... add in the fact that they stated certain features would be a la carte meaning a f2p player could purchase unlimited warzones if that's what they were interested in and couple that giving you an advantage over not just new free to play players BUT ALSO new subbed players as well and you begin to see the problem right?

so you have a bunch of free players that can only access one wz per day but you also have some that have "unlocked" warzones and BOUGHT gear with real money.

do you think those new f2p players are going to have a positive experience when they
1. don't get very much experience because they can only play one a day and
2. are getting face rolled by my twinked out alt and
3. are ALSO losing to newbies that PAID for their gear

it's a lose, lose, lose for free players which will not foster a desire to PLAY MORE, they will either choose to PAY to become competitive "if I can't beat him without buying blue gear than I guess I'll have to buy blue gear..."

or they will leave... which is NOT what anyone wants to happen

Look at it like this... if you can only do 1 warzone a day you aren't going to be able to gear up with wz comms
and if you can only do 3 fp a week you can't gear up with fp drops
that leaves buying gear for credits... except they've already said free accounts will have limited access to the GTN

or crafting, which is very difficult to do as a first time player without a main to feed your alt mats or creds

that leaves.... buying gear for money!

it's forcing new players into buying gear to stay competitive and that's wrong, antithetical to the objective of f2p, and an example of how this is turning into just another cash grab.

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Vellem
08.18.2012 , 05:17 PM | #82
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
Do you play LoTRO? If not, you have no context for what you quoted. And the gear referenced does NOT carry the player though content. At the levels it's available, it's convenience to the player honestly. Personally, I have always just used top end crafted gear in LoTRO, becasue contrary to what the other party stated, shop gear is not really noticably better except right at the transition barrier of the 10 level gap between sets.
Umm, yes it is. I can go dig up some screen shots if you want. If you buy the store gear at lvl 30 you will not find anything close to it stat wise dropped or crafted until you hit lvl 40 and even then it is close. So their lvl 30 store sold gear is nearly equivalent to lvl 40 gear that is dropped or crafted. It doesn't matter what you personally feel. Stats are stats and numbers don't lie. That to you is convenience but not an advantage? Wow I really don't know what to say to that.

And you are making the (wrong) assumption that just because some guy in some video says that the gear being introduced here won't be any better than what is available already and you buy it wholesale. Like turbine never said something at first about their cash shop and went back on their word at a later date. Hmm, like how they said they would never sell gear with stats on it and then, oh look!

Then people like you will come along and say, "Oh, it isn't a big deal, it's not end game gear." While they keep adding pretty much everything but endgame gear to the store (Why sell the raid gear when you can sell the raid instead? Dragioch ring a bell?) and after enough time has pased if you are a min/max type of player and want to stay at the top of the game you will be spending a lot more time (and coins) in the store.

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Andryah
08.18.2012 , 05:26 PM | #83
Quote: Originally Posted by Vellem View Post
And you are making the (wrong) assumption that just because some guy in some video says that the gear being introduced here won't be any better than what is available already and you buy it wholesale. Like turbine never said something at first about their cash shop and went back on their word at a later date. Hmm, like how they said they would never sell gear with stats on it and then, oh look!
I make no assumption. I take him at his word in the video. If you don't that's on you, I really don't care.

Quote: Originally Posted by Vellem View Post
Then people like you will come along and say, "Oh, it isn't a big deal, it's not end game gear." While they keep adding pretty much everything but endgame gear to the store (Why sell the raid gear when you can sell the raid instead? Dragioch ring a bell?) and after enough time has pased if you are a min/max type of player and want to stay at the top of the game you will be spending a lot more time (and coins) in the store.
I have no problems whatsoever with regard to what Turbine has done in terms of managing their cash shop content since they went Freemium. Most people do not, from what is observable in the player base. And it certainly has not destroyed balance in the game in any way, no matter what a minority claims.

It is not a big deal as far as I am concerned. If you feel it is, once again, that is on you and you are free to decide to participate or not participate.
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Anvil
08.18.2012 , 05:38 PM | #84
OMG! What have we said? Fall...

Does the guy not even know whats been said before he takes interviews, thats not a good sign at all.
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skinthinner
08.18.2012 , 05:47 PM | #85
Quote: Originally Posted by Durasturan View Post
I think it's hysterical that instead of debating people's interpretations of the video, you just claim that no one must have watched.

We all watched, the only difference is that we recognize placating lawyer speak and pc bs when we see it.

They will only charge for "beefy content chunks" what the heck does that even mean?

Why was HK in the BETA but there is still no release date?

Why were we promised content updates THIS MONTH and all we got was a sloppily thrown together even that doesn't even have rewards for 80% of the classes?

Why are they backtracking away from their original promise that "subs will get access to all content for free," and now saying "well there may be some content they have to pay for."

Where is the secret space project they've been working on for 9 months but can't even tell us WHAT IT IS much less show us a single screen shot of it?

Where is the revamp to Ilum and expansion on owpvp they promised us 6 months ago?

Why do we STILL not have an appearance tab? The ability to queue 8 mans in reg wz, automated server transfers or many of the other things promised to us so many months ago?

Why have only HALF of the promises that came out of the Guild Summit been followed through on?

You see there are so very many broken promises here mate, so many things that were never followed through on.

Remember the huge "wall of crazy" that they said they were looking at putting in the game "hopefully starting at the 6 month mark."

Yeah they haven't even begun dev on those yet...

So when they make promises, instead of being mr. rosy glasses, glass half full guy, I see it for what it really is... more ceo speak to keep us paying while they pull the wool over our eyes.
This. Oh so much this post.

The promised things out the rear, and failed to deliver most of them. Now, no matter what they claim, the majority of their dev teams will be focusing on the f2p aspect (hint, it has happened in every game that has went f2p in recent times).

Welcome to the bold new SW:TOR! Same as the old one, only with more micro-payments to recoup lost budget money.

(...and yes, I did cancel my sub. Broken promises, lack of real content updates with 'daily' missions being the thing to keep people playing, and of course the whole get rid of most of the staff and move to f2p as hundreds of thousands of folks bail on the game.... here's another hint - for the makers of the game this time - find out why people are truly leaving and FIX it. Throw your resources at the issue and FIX it, rather than half-*** everything as you have been doing.)

Also, as an aside, the person in the interview has a less than stellar track-record of games that have, well, FAILED. Why do people on these games keep getting jobs in the industry? I point you to all the Warhammer folks, STO, Champions Online (heck all Cryptic), the new COH team, Cox, etc.... it baffles the mind.
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SamuraBob_Fl
08.18.2012 , 05:48 PM | #86
With group finder already out, staying geared while leveling is amazingly easy. Running a few FP's will get you orange gear, and you upgrade it by running more FP's as you level or using planetary commendations.

So I don't see the problem with selling leveling blues. If you're not capable of figuring out how to stay geared, you don't deserve the money.
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XTREDEN
08.18.2012 , 06:01 PM | #87
hah cocky dude. I have played every game Mr. Hickman has been put in charge of from the launch to demise. Here is a fact, they all went from great pvp to bad pvp, they all lost subscribers and they make me miss early days of DAoC rvr (which I give him credit for being a part of and ruining). If history repeats itself, we can look forward to TOA with scrolls you buy from the cash shop.

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christhesithlord
08.18.2012 , 06:02 PM | #88
Quote: Originally Posted by lorelthesecond View Post
Selling any gear with stats is pay to win.
No. Pay to win is selling gear with stats that are extremely difficult to get, or not available in the rest of the game.
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spectreclees
08.18.2012 , 06:09 PM | #89
Quote: Originally Posted by christhesithlord View Post
No. Pay to win is selling gear with stats that are extremely difficult to get, or not available in the rest of the game.
Except if you pay to get gear that is close or the same as what is out. It's pay to win. You can pay and win at anything in the game with your gear.

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Neminos
08.18.2012 , 06:12 PM | #90
wait...did he elude to the fact that subscribers MIGHT have to pay for expantions like the new planet? seriously? why would i subscribe then?

I love this game but if I have to pay for new content that may be the end for me. Then perhaps subscribers will get the new major content at a discount.....