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BW's first big mistake - the Era.

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BW's first big mistake - the Era.

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DPCummerbund
08.12.2012 , 12:14 PM | #1
So as I'm approaching level 50 with my first toon, I must say I'm disappointed with the level of "Star Warsyness" of this game. I would assume that BW and EA were willing to throw hundreds of millions of dollars at a game is the huge base of people out there who are Star Wars fans. Any by "Star Wars fans", I mean people who watched & liked the original trilogy.

For example, why does this Darth Malgus character show up all over the place? How many more people would play this game if it was Darth Vader?

So far, the only planets I've really liked are Tatooine and Hoth, and Alderaan. Before playing this game, I had never heard of Taris, or Nar Shadda, or Belsavis, or any of those other planets.

Okay, I sort of remember the Twi'lek dancers, so that's kind of cool. But who are the Mirakula, or whatever they're called? And those Chiss, or the Sith?

I'm sure lots of people who are familiar with the "Extended Universe" get all excited for references to Darth Revan, but the average person doesn't. Darth Revan wasn't worth a $100 million MMORPG. Darth Vader would be.
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Wolfninjajedi
08.12.2012 , 12:17 PM | #2
The era is actually fine, this gives BW a huge open spot to put in their own lore and all that. Whereas if they did it in a different era, they would have to be careful in how they would go about making the game and trying not to disrupt any lore....especially if the game was set during the movies era, then your really limiting what is able to happen.
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Sarfux
08.12.2012 , 12:18 PM | #3
If you have never heard of anything about this. It seems you are more of a ABY guy. That's After the Battle of Yavin

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08.12.2012 , 12:19 PM | #4
SWG was in the original trilogy era and that certainly did not play out better

Personally I think this era was the best choice, things are recognizable, but still removed far enough to have freedom artistically and storywise
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RyanRhino
08.12.2012 , 12:20 PM | #5
they already made one in Darth Vader's era, and all the ******es drove that in to the Toilet too. The Expanded Universe is the bread and butter of Star Wars merchandising (It paid for the prequels)

Most people who play these games arent Star Wars fans anyway. I am, and I like it.

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DPCummerbund
08.12.2012 , 12:30 PM | #6
Quote: Originally Posted by Wolfninjajedi View Post
The era is actually fine, this gives BW a huge open spot to put in their own lore and all that. Whereas if they did it in a different era, they would have to be careful in how they would go about making the game and trying not to disrupt any lore....especially if the game was set during the movies era, then your really limiting what is able to happen.

I was thinking about that too. A lot of people would get mad if you messed up the EU lore. However, I think the majority of Star Wars fans don't even know what the EU lore is, and couldn't care less if you messed it up anyway.

I think LOTRO did a really good job of this. This game could have gone on concurrently with the original trilogy, that would have been great. They frequently have areas that are set either right before or right after events in Lord of the Rings. Star Wars could have done the same. For example,

Hoth - when Luke left, the last of the Republic forces were still clearing out. Empire forces could be trying to round up the last of these Republic forces, especially trying to capture critical data or people before they got off planet. Republic forces could be trying to save them from the Empire's assault.

Alderaan - right before it's blown up. It would be cool to see everything, knowing you're going to be one of the last people to see the planet before it explodes. Both sides could be tracking down rumors of a secret Empire superweapon headed their way...

Endor - right before the battle. Republic players could be out recruiting Ewoks (kind of like the Twi'lek pilgrims on Tython).

Tattooine - pretty much any time!
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RayneDancer
08.12.2012 , 12:31 PM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by DPCummerbund View Post
So as I'm approaching level 50 with my first toon, I must say I'm disappointed with the level of "Star Warsyness" of this game. I would assume that BW and EA were willing to throw hundreds of millions of dollars at a game is the huge base of people out there who are Star Wars fans. Any by "Star Wars fans", I mean people who watched & liked the original trilogy.

For example, why does this Darth Malgus character show up all over the place? How many more people would play this game if it was Darth Vader?

So far, the only planets I've really liked are Tatooine and Hoth, and Alderaan. Before playing this game, I had never heard of Taris, or Nar Shadda, or Belsavis, or any of those other planets.

Okay, I sort of remember the Twi'lek dancers, so that's kind of cool. But who are the Mirakula, or whatever they're called? And those Chiss, or the Sith?

I'm sure lots of people who are familiar with the "Extended Universe" get all excited for references to Darth Revan, but the average person doesn't. Darth Revan wasn't worth a $100 million MMORPG. Darth Vader would be.
The Era is better for creativity than the one portrayed in the movies. The movies created left no real room to expand on, except for the period after. Also, you'd know quite a lot about everything you said you have no clue about if you'd played the original games made by BioWare, Knights of the Old Republic. They were great games. That's why this game was made. It wasn't made to deviate from the stories already in place from the movies.

If you want a game that does stay within the realms of the movies, play The Force Unleashed. Be prepared for disappointment, as well. The stories are terrible and clunky. Why? Because they tried deviating from, but staying within the boundaries of the movies. It just doesn't work.
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08.12.2012 , 12:33 PM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by SNCommand View Post
SWG was in the original trilogy era and that certainly did not play out better
uhh... im pretty sure it played out better. it lasted around 8 years and even when they took it down it still had a populated server.

oh yeah, and it was fun. there was stuff to do end game.
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RazielHex
08.12.2012 , 12:36 PM | #9
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For example, why does this Darth Malgus character show up all over the place? How many more people would play this game if it was Darth Vader?.
Are you kidding? He was in every single cinematic leading up to the game's release.

He kills Satele Shan's Master, Kao Den Darach. He kills Darth Vindican, his own Master. He leads the assault on the Jedi Temple and destroys it. He kills Master Ven Zallow, the leader of the Temple. He's there in the assault of Alderaan. He nearly kills Satele Shan AND Jace Malcolm by himself!

He orchestrates everything the Empire does. Every single flashpoint is a single stroke of his master plan. He has the players go to Hammer Station in order to obtain the Advocent technology. He has the players go attack Clan Varad in order to gain an allegiance of a competing Mandalorian Clan. He has players track down and kill Darth Revan so he can control the Foundry. He has the players perform in the Colicoid War games to have access to their weaponry. He has the players assault the Red Reaper and kill his Master's master, Darth Ikoral, to ensure that the Pureblood Hegemony will not return to the Empire.

Then when all of this is complete, he performs a coup d'etat, using every single element of all the previous flashpoints as his own tools to become the New Emperor so he could make the Sith Empire more like the Republic.

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Socialist
08.12.2012 , 12:38 PM | #10
This era is more carefully build together than both the trilogies

Lucas is a master in leaving huge plot holes shamelessly.
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