Orange Modable items and Loot Rolls

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Orange Modable items and Loot Rolls

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Finiffa

12.19.2011 , 11:35 AM \| #71	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by hatsjoe i had something similar happen to me. I'm IA operative and there drops an orange blaster rifle. There is an IA sniper in grp aswell who uses the same statts but he uses snipers instead. He rolled need on it cause he said yea i can use the mods to make my weapon better. and sells the orange item. How to roll in situations like these ? I think it's very wrong to roll on an orange items YOU CAN'T EVEN USE just for the mods. Mods are easy to come by so thats a ****** thing to do IMHO.
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ApesAmongUs

12.19.2011 , 11:38 AM \| #72	Quote
Orange items should just drop with the mod slots empty. That would solve all the problems.

Voqar

12.19.2011 , 11:39 AM \| #73	Quote
Major design flaw, IMO. Either OJ stuff shouldn't drop in instances, NBG should lock in on your class (ie, BH can't roll on SW heavy), or ditch the rolling stupidity entirely and go with the goodie bag thing they had in beta til some idiots cried about missing the random rolls for some reason.
Failure to enforce the naming policy on RP servers is one reason I'm semi-retired from TOR. It's a sign that BW doesn't care about quality.

Kindara

12.19.2011 , 11:39 AM \| #74	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by ApesAmongUs Orange items should just drop with the mod slots empty. That would solve all the problems. If they did the only fight then would be people who claim that they should need for companions BUT atlast it'd be 1 problem down. It'd really help if they had better Loot Options. I've hated their loot options and controls since beta.

damion_mage

12.19.2011 , 12:18 PM \| #75	Quote
I believe this is something you should discuess with your group. For me it will be easier as i will mostly just group with my guild and we have already set rules for the rolls. 1) Orange items need rolls are only for the item, not the mods. If you can use the item (with or without the current mods) need the item if you wish. 2) Need rolls are only for items your Character can use, no need rolls for your Companions. our guild is pretty tight knit, so we make mods for those who need them.

Lance

12.19.2011 , 12:40 PM \| #76	Quote
COSMETIC is not NEED. COSMETIC is GREED. Having said that, if you state up front that you're looking for specific gear and everyone is ok with it, roll on. I like to keep it simple and roll on gear that's an upgrade for me. How do I know it's for me? Stats.

Malcivious

12.19.2011 , 12:48 PM \| #77	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Lance Cosmetic is NOT Need. Cosmetic IS Greed. Bingo. Just fixed the caps to better represent it. If you want it for the looks, ask the group first if you can roll need for the looks of it. If no one needs it for stat upgrades, I'm sure they'll be fine with it. However, if someone loses a Stat upgrade because you wanted to dress pretty, there'd be some mad people in that group.

Aberration

12.19.2011 , 12:50 PM \| #78	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Matty-Wan I do not come from WoW so I have only read about your views on "need and greed". From what I can tell the majority feel that it is absolutly wrong to need for an item if it doesn't have your stats. With that said... I am a BH and a super cool looking piece of orange heavy armor drops. Turns out it has great armor too but it doesn't have my stats in it. However, all I need do to make it my stats is open it up and pop in the right mod. I am of the belief that any heavy armor that drops which is orange is a "need" for me as a BH since I can make the stats as I wish. I just am wondering what others think. Thanks Absolutely. No one really has a right to complain, as they can just pop in their mods to upgrade it. IMO of course. And I will be doing the same in-game regardless of what people think or react, considering all the oranges can be upgraded/changed. Anyone who really doesn't like it, is just trying to find excuses to limit their competition for an item. Their tears feed my dark-side. Which is good, keeps me neutral

Skytripa

12.19.2011 , 12:54 PM \| #79	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Aberration Absolutely. No one really has a right to complain, as they can just pop in their mods to upgrade it. IMO of course. And I will be doing the same in-game regardless of what people think or react, considering all the oranges can be upgraded/changed. Anyone who really doesn't like it, is just trying to find excuses to limit their competition for an item. Their tears feed my dark-side. Which is good, keeps me neutral If you are just going to take the mods out and put your own mods in why don't you just put those mods in your current armor? The stats would be the same the only thing changing is the look.
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Matty-Wan

12.19.2011 , 12:57 PM \| #80	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Lance COSMETIC is not NEED. COSMETIC is GREED. Having said that, if you state up front that you're looking for specific gear and everyone is ok with it, roll on. I like to keep it simple and roll on gear that's an upgrade for me. How do I know it's for me? Stats. Again, NOBODY is debating whether you can "need" for cosmetic items... /sigh In this example, the player is cleared for the armor type, i.e. heavy, med, light. The armor rating is an upgrade, and the defense stat is an upgrade. Its only that the loot has endurance and power instead of endurance and aim for example. This loot in an upgrade in nearly everyway NOT COSMETIC. And in the ways that its not, its easily modded.
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