SWTOR biggest MMO flop of all time.

Speak for yourself, I like the game.

$200 million tossed into development hell.

Poor gameplay performance

tons of bugs yet to be address

poor customer service

bad business decisions

declining player base by the day

lack of content

lack of difficult content

poor thoughtout game mechanics

amateur devs who don't have a clue about making mmo's

you may enjoy this game and you can continue defending bioware but you can't negate everything i said above. Just saying...

$200 million tossed into development hell.

Poor gameplay performance

Tons of bugs yet to be address

Poor customer service

Bad business decisions

Declining player base by the day

Lack of content

Lack of difficult content

Poor thoughtout game mechanics

Amateur devs who don't have a clue about making MMO's

You may enjoy this game and you can continue defending BioWare but you can't negate everything I said above. Just saying...

HA!! Love it.

Lets also look at a few good points. Opening day. 2mil subs (and thats low end). Thats an average of $60 per box = $120,000,000 plus $15 for 1 month sub = $30,000,000 for a total of $150,000,000 opening day profits. The average player stayed for 6 months , thats another $180,000,000 in profits/sales for a total of $330,000,000 in 6 months , $130,000,000 of which is profit (and thats all on the low end).

This is bad points for SWTOR. Opening Day subs say nothing about the game but about the expectations and peoples desire to play the game. The average player did not stay for 6 months. At the 6 month mark there is well over 500k but under a million players.
For all you people who still dont understand that. That includes anyone that has ever subbed to the game and all the F2P players that have joined since F2P 15 was added. It also includes the 6 month subs (which I dont believe is that high of a number (maybe 50k?) at the most but its a total guess) and includes people who came back to try out the server transfers.
You are trying to tell me a game that is making 130 million dollar profit in 6 months has to lay off alot op workers and has to convert to a F2P model before the end of a year?

That right there says the game is/was a suscess and the new model (F2P) is to get a bigger player sub in so they can continue to grow and get better.
No it doesnt. What that says is that the over 2 million people were looking for a new MMO to play other than WoW or other ones. I think the fact they had so many people at the start and them having to goto F2P within a year actually show more about the game being a "MISS" (codename failure)

As others have stated , i've not had a single CS problem. I deleted some CE items on a Saturday and w/i 4 hrs got them back. Lost 8mil in the bank on the day of x-fers and got it back w/i 2 hrs.
Just because you havent doesnt mean it hasnt happened.

Content has been just fine. I've yet to do all the stories from each class and from both factions. Not to mention some of the FP and OP's.
I guess you havent hit 50 then. Wait until you do and you realize than in order to keep playing this MMO you have to reroll to have something to do.

My biggest complaints have been lack of open world pvp and space combat. Other than that its been a blast and for me will continue to be as long as now and then they send me new stuff.

Two good complaints. It is kinda sad that in a game based upon war that open world PVP doesnt exist for the most part. The worlds are designed to prevent the players from encountering each other for the most part. The first 2 planets are impossible to have any PVP on.

You know..I played RIFT for a while to and thought the same thing you did. But...it just didn't have the certain draw TOR did. No lightsabers, no sprint, no quick travel, no nice taxis everywhere. No instantly making your inventory bigger. You will be back. You are hooked. I can sense it.

That's not what that term means.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Development_hell

SWTOR has been released, so it's not in development hell.

It most likely cost over 500 million with promoting it. Thats from the annomous poster from Bioware that was right about F2P and that they would charge for the new species and nothing that he said has been proven incorrect yet. So we should believe the 500 million also.


I got poor performance. Then I cleaned the dust out of my computer, off the fans and all, and now it works perfectly.

Your right everyone with a super rig computer and the best connection that have problems with the game is because of dust.

So does WoW. Your point?
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So does Everquest. Your point?
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Good* business decisions. From a business standpoint, Free to play is a really great idea. It makes a LOT more money than subs do because people spend needlessly on cash shops.

Who cares about business. Everyone should care about the game instead. F2P will probable get EA a larger profit but it still doesnt fix whats wrong with the game. If they would fix the problems with the game then the subs wouldnt have left in the millions and then the F2P would have added even more. But we all know that if SWTOR would have kept subs that they wouldnt have gone F2P. It isnt about letting people play its all about money to them. Thats the biggest problem with the games today.


Where's your proof?
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This game has more content in it's first 7 months, than ANY other game. Hell, WoW didn't even have raiding to start with. Or Battlegrounds.

Content? You mean the OPS that were cleared in less than a week? The flashpoints that were cleared on the first attempt without a wipe? You mean warzones are content?

WoW didnt need raiding at the start. You didnt have everyone hitting 60 in the first week. You also had T.05 and dungeons that had meaning(as in the gear was useful).
Content isnt about how much but how long. They can add 10 OPS but if they are all cleared in the first week its still only 1 week of content.


Take off your armour and run EC.

Or even better learn to play the game and your class if you want to succeed, instead of rewarding trying with the same reward.


Examples?
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To have made the second most successful MMO in history, they sure don't have a clue do they?

They havent made the second most successful MMO. Even if they did (which they didnt and not even trying to state that they may have) why do they consider it a "MISS" and not a high priority?



And to think, I just negated everything you just said without even trying to defend Bioware. I simply used facts.

The first two zones in WoW are impossible to gank newbies in too.