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Senden
08.08.2012 , 02:54 AM | #41
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
Oh really?



Anything else?

Please get to work on clarifying and filling in the blanks, because all you have so far is hyperbolic opinion, falsely presented as unarguable fact.

Just saying......
Lol you like using the term "hyperbole" don't you? Lets be honest, you can close your eyes, stick your fingers in your ears and play the "lar lar I'm not listening" card but to be perfectly honest, most of what he pointed out all adds up to this game going f2p and that is a huge failure in EA's eyes.

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omNOMNOMinator
08.08.2012 , 03:07 AM | #42
Quote: Originally Posted by DuckKing View Post
$200 million tossed into development hell.
Not true. This game will be a success.

Poor gameplay performance
Its a game for the future, this will be ironed out with future technology and patches.

Tons of bugs yet to be address
I don't encounter many and I play most hours of every day.

Poor customer service
True.

Bad business decisions
True - the decisions resulting in not putting enough content out fast enough. Its not too late to redeem this one.

Declining player base by the day
True - due to no content, but I tell you this game will get a much, much larger player-base in the future with more gameplay systems and content.

Lack of content
True - the future is bright.

Lack of difficult content
Not really true. EC Hard is difficult and Nightmare Pilgrim is bonkers.

Poor thoughtout game mechanics
I disagree, but there aren't enough of them and how it all fits together to make an overall game experience needs to be tweaked. This is what post-release review is for.

Amateur devs who don't have a clue about making MMO's
This is a rather silly comment.

You may enjoy this game and you can continue defending BioWare but you can't negate everything I said above.
This game has a bright future, and its very fun. Until you've completed all the classes then people shouldn't be upping sticks in such early days like it will always be a disappointing game.
This is by far the most fun and fluid combat system I've seen in an MMO.
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Lailis
08.08.2012 , 03:09 AM | #43
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
Oh really?



Anything else?

Please get to work on clarifying and filling in the blanks, because all you have so far is hyperbolic opinion, falsely presented as unarguable fact.

Just saying......
Please read these articles Swtor is not as glorious and perfect as you think! When large and widely respected financial magazine Forbes writes articles about the downfall of SWTOR, how can you still hide your head in the sand and say everything is perfect? You need to be a realist in this situation and accept the fact that SWTOR has issues that need fixing.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertco...or-surrenders/
http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain...y-driven-mmos/
http://www.forbes.com/sites/benzinga...-old-republic/

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08.08.2012 , 03:31 AM | #44
I think even EA have made comment to SWTOR being a failure, but as they see it their other games have managed to weather the loss.

I wish it wasn't the case but lets face the facts that dev communication pre-launch was poor and its just as bad now. People didn't like the look of the armour in the game so rather than fix it we have had no new armour, there has been very very little content added. And perhaps something I never thought game mechanic bugs. Had to kill Malgus yesterday and would he move hell no. Just far away from the edge firing lightning through walls and infinite distance, nothing we could do to get him to the edge so all that time wasted.

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Drudenfusz
08.08.2012 , 03:34 AM | #45
Sure the game has some issues, but I still enjoy it... but it would make me happy if BioWare really could go through the codex and remove everything we can't get and fixing all those entries that are supposed to be available.
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Midnyjt
08.08.2012 , 03:34 AM | #46
Actually this game would be a lot better if not for BIOWARE.

These guys went and produced what they could best - voiceovers and cutscenes.

Thanks to that we are stuck with a game that's half single player oriented and half MMO (with ops and such) and that's just wrong.

You cannot turn a hybrid to a success, it's just NOT POSSIBLE.


The reason is quite simple - there are better single player games then this and better MMO's as well.
And you cannot produce content in reasonable time.


In the end MMO gamers saw that the multiplayer features are rather weak and they moved to different titles.
So only some minor Star Wars fans are left.

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NinjaApacHe
08.08.2012 , 03:43 AM | #47
Quote: Originally Posted by DuckKing View Post
$200 million tossed into development hell.

Poor gameplay performance

Tons of bugs yet to be address

Poor customer service

Bad business decisions

Declining player base by the day

Lack of content

Lack of difficult content

Poor thoughtout game mechanics

Amateur devs who don't have a clue about making MMO's

You may enjoy this game and you can continue defending BioWare but you can't negate everything I said above. Just saying...
In my opinion, you are the biggest failure of mmo players of all times....
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Ferdia
08.08.2012 , 04:25 AM | #48
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
Oh really?

$200 million tossed into development hell. Hyperbole, and the $200M is unsubstantiated

Poor gameplay performance vague statement, opinion actually. Plays fine on my computer.

Tons of bugs yet to be address it's "addressed" not "address", and once again vague hyperbole with no objtective examples of what constitutes a "ton"

Poor customer service not the best in the industry, but hardly "poor". More hyperbole.

Bad business decisions such as? see.... more vague hyperbole

Declining player base by the day actually, player base appears to be pretty stable right now.

Lack of content opinion, unsupported by any facts. There is a lot of content. Could it be that it's not the content you want?

Lack of difficult content lack of specifics and facts, hence personal opinion with a good dose of hyperbole.

Poor thoughtout game mechanics while you may not like the game mechancs, it is pretty clear that they thoughtout the mechanics quite well for this game. So, once again... we have your opinion

Amateur devs who don't have a clue about making MMO's complete armchair hyperbole.



Anything else?

Please get to work on clarifying and filling in the blanks, because all you have so far is hyperbolic opinion, falsely presented as unarguable fact.

Just saying.....
Being positive, and making sense on this forum is a bannable offense.

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Wardris
08.08.2012 , 05:57 AM | #49
Speak for yourself, I like the game.

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SamuelAU
08.08.2012 , 06:03 AM | #50
Write a book.
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