SWTOR biggest MMO flop of all time.

Plain and simple if you enjoy the game play if not dont, thats the nice thing about games you can stop playing them.

After level 20 the content in SWTOR is just filler .....the best content is the starter levels it has the draw, the immersion factor to get players to play. What SWTOR needs is game play , graphics like the game trailers....then we would be playing a true immersive Star Wars mmorpg.....maybe in 10 years.

Why are you even here? Why post in a forum for a game you don't care about? Are you so miserable that some people may actually enjoy this game?

You're not going to change any decisions that have been made. You're not pointing out anything new.

There are people out there that can't even fathom the idea that some people have found enjoyable things in the game and continue on playing it. That's called mind projection fallacy. They go on about how are people stupid for supporting such a crappy game and then actually wish this game would just shut down and fail so hard so that some sort of .. healing process, I guess.. can be amended to fix some sort of implicit wound they have.

They are the lover crying in the shower over some lost love. Man up.

What if you kinda enjoy the game, but are frustrated because bioware failed to deliver on its promises and ruined any hopes of the game every improving or living up to its amazingly high potential that the devs seem to look over any chance they get? where is that option? Think I should keep playing with a growing sense of frustration and disappointment of what could and should have been with this game? Anyone have a countdown until ESO comes out? cause biofail has ruined star wars for me forever. This is worse than episode 1 jar jar binks.

yep i have 50ms ping with 40 to 55 fps get on fleet lagggggggggggggg
do ops lagggggggggg
no new content in months after being told new content every month
1 world event since opening
no world pvp
a game that was half made then put to the public for crap to be patched on the run with no idea of whats next
a game thats only selling point is the story
bad toon clothes
bad mounts
pets that cant keep pace and have no value other then to look at if u cant be bother waiting for them to catch up
no guild options
still waiting on guild ships
no housing
no tone changing on clothes
bullcrap prices on removing mods


as for customer support its ok but no info on fourms ever and a report that hand pics what it wants to answer avoiding all the important questions that paying players have added
no info on whats coming just vague talk saying its coming and promises of content that never come

a test server thats empty cos they pissed every player there off buy not maintaining it and shuting it down after teasting when for the first 3 months it was always open
yes this game is the biggest flop in mmo history is it worth 15$ a month HELL NO
is it worth playing buy yourself hell yes after that everything is well below par this game is a joke and a bad one at that im glad they fired over 70% of them tossers

these are the people that told us no to tone changes cos it was not something they wanted
these are the tossers that spent weeks making a bunch of vids for april fools day showing mini games that people wanted then saying oh sorry it was a joke
these are the people that made rocket boots and joked like little kids well the jokes on them cos they dont have a job any more BW treated this as a joke they didnt have a clue what they were doing and it shows once my sub runs out stuff this game good bye why pay for anything when the only thing worth paying for in my book was the single player story which ill now get FREEEEEEEEEEEE


wow ea/bw u guys are stupid
and i was a fanboy but that was 6 months ago to many lies and bullcrap from the devs is what destroyed this game

still waiting for the 2 content patch and u guys said 1 a month now u say 1 every 6 weeks i dont care if i get warned but u guys talk more **** then a thief caught stealing f2p wont save that

If a game is frustrating you stop playing or learn to live with the things that pains you, off course by all means post bug reports, bring some constructive critisism to the forums, but telling people how bad you think the game is just doesnt help anyone.

BW only care about money so if you dont like it hit em where it hurts

I disagree with everything you have said. This is a troll post based purely on opinion with nothing to back it up.

Quote: Originally Posted by DuckKing

$200 million tossed into development hell.
I really wish I knew the actual amount they spent on this. To announce F2P within 8 months, they must be hurting.

Poor gameplay performance
Poor game engine, Hero Engine. For proof, go do some open world zergfest on Ilum. Oh right, the engine couldnt handle it, so they phased it out. Yeah, no open world PvP. But I dont miss mario kart around central to find those stupid armaments.

Tons of bugs yet to be address
Tons of bugs to be addressed, they come up with a new patch, and break more ****. See: Complaints about yesterdays patch.

Poor customer service
People are still eagerly awaiting information on server transfers. BioWare is quiet on when this is coming, but the patience of the consumer is running out. And so are 3/6 mo. subs.

Bad business decisions
See all of the above.

Declining player base by the day
Game's sold 2.39 million copies from what VGCharts shows. Yet by February, the game had 1.7 million subs. By May, it had 1.3 million. And at the end of the July, they were so embarrassed to even give a number. I assume its probably 650k. But either way, its below a million, but not very close to it either. So they probably lost another 400,000+ subs.

Lack of content
I can only play the same WZ's for so long, before it gets old...

Lack of difficult content
I dont do PvE, so no comment.

Poor thoughtout game mechanics
Not sure exactly what you mean specifically.

Amateur devs who don't have a clue about making MMO's
They're not complete amateurs, but they really dont know how to make MMOs. We got the same people (lead designers anyways) that failed with Warhammer after all.

You may enjoy this game and you can continue defending BioWare but you can't negate everything I said above. Just saying...

Many tried, but I think I just proved most of these points.

Quote: Originally Posted by Sniperrecon

HA!! Love it.

Lets also look at a few good points. Opening day. 2mil subs (and thats low end). Thats an average of $60 per box = $120,000,000 plus $15 for 1 month sub = $30,000,000 for a total of $150,000,000 opening day profits. The average player stayed for 6 months , thats another $180,000,000 in profits/sales for a total of $330,000,000 in 6 months , $130,000,000 of which is profit (and thats all on the low end).

You just counted 2 million people for $15/mo when the game lost about 25%+ of it's subscription base each quarter. Didnt we get the first 30 days free too? Plus that free month of April for people with a level 50..

Why dose my thread keep getting bumped. I thought I had a legitimate opinion but some people brushed it off as another troll thread. Fanboys can call me whatever they want, I won't lose sleep over it but obviously reasoning with each other isn't working.

I think this thread ran it's course.

I am sorry for being a bit offensive there, but really: You admitted on another of your own threads that you cancelled your account and are merely waiting for it to end now. Why are you still here? You said your opinion already a number of times. Why are you wasting your time on this forum repeating your message? I doubt it is about wanting a reasoned discussion concerning your opinion. Your last line in your initial post blew that chance out of the water the moment you started the thread.
Do you honestly believe that ending a post with a challenge to rebute your opinions would create a reasonable discussion?

I honestly think it would be better for yourself if you now just move on and spend time on other things. All of us have seen this a hundred times already, and nobody gets happy with these threads made by cancelled subs just spamming the forum with post after post.