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GalacticKegger
08.07.2012 , 10:13 AM | #61
Quote: Originally Posted by Valkirus View Post
Cool. Then you should understand how many feel about this game from the results of the "hype BioWare created". I have several games which I have played in the past which have lived up the hype the developer's created. To name some from BioWare..Mass Effect 1 and 2. Dragon Age. KOTOR. Baldur's Gate. Great games which lived up to the hype. TOR however is a bit like any hype a company builds up for a product and then fails to deliver. Customers remember.
Thank you. Hype has very little effect on me though due to mileage considerations. I do understand and accept how other people feel. I just wish people would understand and accept that as well.
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Bloodstealer
08.07.2012 , 10:23 AM | #62
Quote: Originally Posted by Emeda View Post
I guess you dont remember back when they did the merges all the threads about queue times and that almost all the destination servers were hitting full every day.

The servers population has decreased from most servers hitting full everyday to only about 3-6 servers hitting full in a week and many servers (especially the PVP servers) just hitting heavy if that.
Doooh..... well of course it was busy then.. it was transfer time and I would imagine all destination servers were seeing unparrelled business isn't that obvious. The server pops would of been exagerated by that acrivity for a while, until things settled back down and players resumed their normal playing times etc.

Don't forget that we players are also a seasonal bunch... unless you live in the UK you may have noticed its summer time and well.. there are other distractions for people during the holiday season.. you know RL stuff.
For those of us in the UK... you have no excuse cos the rain and floods have prevented us from leaving our PC's and summertime has been cancelled this year!

But anyway who cares if Tor status says your server dropped 0.00556 this week..
Are populations still healthy - I say YES
Are you getting groups - I say YES,
Are PvP Wz's popping regularly - I say YES...
Well on Red Eclipse things look good, maybe not every minute of the day but its healthy and imeasurably busier than what we all saw 3 months ago. Sure I would imagine the game is still loosing players and for obvious reasons but the Question is what's more important to you - constantly looking at server stats and whinning that every blip means a serious decline without considering other factors OR getting into game and playing the game!
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08.07.2012 , 10:34 AM | #63
Quote: Originally Posted by GalacticKegger View Post
Thank you. I do understand and accept. Hype has very little effect on me though due to mileage considerations. I just wish people would understand and accept that as well.
It's not just hype though.

Take RvR, there was pre-launch hype there (which certainly sold more than a few boxes - I saw more than a few WAR guilds and players in the early days), but the reality was that ANY RvR was basically hoping for too much.
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GalacticKegger
08.07.2012 , 10:55 AM | #64
Quote: Originally Posted by Goretzu View Post
It's not just hype though.

Take RvR, there was pre-launch hype there (which certainly sold more than a few boxes - I saw more than a few WAR guilds and players in the early days), but the reality was that ANY RvR was basically hoping for too much.
For me it is until I see it for myself. If I see it, cool. If I don't - cool. Either way ... cool. So it boils down to whether or not what I am doing is fun. The day I stop having fun is the day I stop subscribing. I'm having fun so I continue to subscribe.
Can we please just have our pre-KotFE SWTOR MMORPG back?

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Goretzu
08.07.2012 , 11:02 AM | #65
Quote: Originally Posted by GalacticKegger View Post
For me it is until I see it for myself. If I see it, cool. If I don't - cool. Either way ... cool. So it boils down to whether or not what I am doing is fun. The day I stop having fun is the day I stop subscribing. I'm having fun so I continue to subscribe.
Them saying they have RvR (or the artist formerly known as RvR) and it basically being unplayable and then removed is not "hype". There's many words for what it is, but "hype" is most definately not one of them.
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GalacticKegger
08.07.2012 , 11:16 AM | #66
Quote: Originally Posted by Goretzu View Post
Them saying they have RvR (or the artist formerly known as RvR) and it basically being unplayable and then removed is not "hype". There's many words for what it is, but "hype" is most definately not one of them.
About the only unfulfilled "expectations" Bioware might be held accountable for was Ilum and pulling RWZs from 1.2 after hyping it would be in the patch. Every MMO has done that at some point and to some degree because of technical issues. If someone wants to hitch their bandwagon to those 2 events then they are welcome to it.

Some people expect WoW's 3 expansions worth of end game. Some people expect DAoC's and WAR's combined decade of RvR. Some people expect Guild Wars' 3 expansions worth of GvG. Some people expect the best of everything that's ever been, but redesigned to fit the game as they envision playing it. That's too close to being a self-defeating personality disorder for my tastes. I'd rather just play the game and decide for myself.
Can we please just have our pre-KotFE SWTOR MMORPG back?

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Kharnis
08.07.2012 , 11:39 AM | #67
Quote: Originally Posted by GalacticKegger View Post
About the only unfulfilled "expectations" Bioware might be held accountable for was Ilum and pulling RWZs from 1.2 after hyping it would be in the patch. Every MMO has done that at some point and to some degree because of technical issues. If someone wants to hitch their bandwagon to those 2 events then they are welcome to it.
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Goretzu
08.07.2012 , 11:49 AM | #68
Quote: Originally Posted by GalacticKegger View Post
About the only unfulfilled "expectations" Bioware might be held accountable for was Ilum and pulling RWZs from 1.2 after hyping it would be in the patch. Every MMO has done that at some point and to some degree because of technical issues. If someone wants to hitch their bandwagon to those 2 events then they are welcome to it.

Some people expect WoW's 3 expansions worth of end game. Some people expect DAoC's and WAR's combined decade of RvR. Some people expect Guild Wars' 3 expansions worth of GvG. Some people expect the best of everything that's ever been, but redesigned to fit the game as they envision playing it. That's too close to being a self-defeating personality disorder for my tastes. I'd rather just play the game and decide for myself.
They failed to deliever any viable RvR, then removed what was left.
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Emeda
08.07.2012 , 12:22 PM | #69
Quote: Originally Posted by Bloodstealer View Post
Are populations still healthy - I say YES
I take it your not on a PVP server or on an Australian server
Are you getting groups - I say YES,
Are PvP Wz's popping regularly - I say YES...
Well on Red Eclipse things look good, maybe not every minute of the day but its healthy and imeasurably busier than what we all saw 3 months ago. Sure I would imagine the game is still loosing players and for obvious reasons but the Question is what's more important to you - constantly looking at server stats and whinning that every blip means a serious decline without considering other factors OR getting into game and playing the game!
Whats more important to me is fixing the reasons that the game is still losing subs, but they wont happen when people like you just accept anything that they do in the game and dont say anything.

Im happy because my once dead server has been filled up again and while it still has that hole that keeps losing subs its ok because its more than what I had before. Now since the servers are getting lower again they are adding in F2P to fill up the servers again. Then you will be OK until more subs leave. Whats going to happen once the F2P has been around for 3-4 months and the servers drop down to heavy and standard? What else could they possible do to add more players?

The only thing I can think of is fix the game and if they fixed the game then lots of the subs wouldnt leave and the game could grow.

So would you use the summer excuse as to the reason the Australian servers dont go past standard now?
If this game is so great then why do so many people that love the game spend all their time in the forums?

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08.07.2012 , 12:27 PM | #70
Quote: Originally Posted by Emeda View Post
Whats going to happen once the F2P has been around for 3-4 months and the servers drop down to heavy and standard? What else could they possible do to add more players?
They could pay US!!!! That'd probably work huh?!

I agree with you though. They've had 8 months to fix the smallest of issues and they've done nothing. We have LESS PvP content today than we did 8 months ago.
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