Why do you not play ranked PvP?

if the FOTM class system is not fixed and the winning decided on

class-spec-gear-skill in that order, pvp and hence ranked pvp will first be monopolized by the FOTM classes and eventually consume itself and die out...

its not the ranked system that is the ONLY broken thing... and fixing ONLY that will not solve anything...

regards

I do play rwz but about to stop because there is no point after you got full WH , to grind for coms so rating for epeen gear is what you do. Once someone disconnects, uses exploit or lags or bugs there is no grace period to let them back in and youve lost. When you lose to a stupid reason like that you get pissed because it means you lost 10-20 rating, wich youve earned over several wins because you only gain between 3-7 rating per win. (the lack of a working matchmaking system where you lose less rating when playing higher rated people, or win more when playing them, DUE to the lack of team variety, DUE to the lack of crossrealm ques or generally players doing rated.)

This also makes people really nervous to play their mains with a team that has the "wrong setup" (jug tank in huttball, undergeared people, too many sorcs/sages, no cookiecutter specs, marauder with speedbuffs etc etc)

Wich means unless you have a good setup it doesnt happen and you lose and people become more upset and on and on and on.

TL : DR; its all kinds of messed up.

The toon i pvp with has the war hero gear from doing PuG, pvp has no other real impact and i could careless about ranked.

When i want to pvp i just que up solo and i spend the tokens on my companions hoping that one day i can use them in open world pvp, but til then i just sit on fleet all the time.

/sigh

Just played like 8 matches in the middle of the day today.

Two coordinated pug teams, and we added new players from fleet as people dropped. And we traded good players for bad if the games were unbalanced. So, just about every game was close... And pops were almost instant after every round.

This is what people need to start doing on your own servers, reclaim rwz for the common (amateur) man. Set up your own "solo queues". Coordinate two teams and queue up together. Do our own matchmaking by playing against teams of our own caliber and gear level.

I'm only level 49 with my pvp char, and I can tell you why I have no interest in playing ranked...

People take the game too seriously. I've been cursed out. I've seen other teammates get cursed out. And I've seen idiots keep typing FFS all the darn time and insulting the whole team. I can imagine how bad they would be if it actually counted for real.

Nothing makes you feel worse than people raking you over the coals for losing. Sometimes it's your fault, and sometimes it's not either way, I don't want any part of it. I'd rather just play for fun and ignore sore loser loudmouths.

This is why the real pvp'ers want to do ranked. they are tired of being matched with trash pugs. I don't mind having undergeared people on my team as long as they actually know what they doing but most people in this game are too stupid to even call inc /focus healer/peel for other guy who is capping the node.
Sad thing is most people/guilds who don't Q ranked anymore blame it on lack of gear or class imbalance when in fact they're lacking skill to compete vs other organized teams.

I started my own guild to do more RWZ because my old guild leaders stop queueing after loose one game.

I have really good players but I dont have a Mara and PT with good gear. Plus at least three of that good playeres still dont have full WH. Im trying to recruit at least one mara for weeks and nothing. So we have a huge problem to form a good group.

a) RWZ is about speed, whatever get the turrets / ball first usually wins.

b) its really really f... hard get the perfect group. the best pvp guilds on my server ALWAYS queue with 1 Mara and 2 PT. Insane damage for our healers and our guild just get ***** over and over by the same guild with that composition so after two or three we call for the night. Perfect group on my server pretty much start with that 1 mara dn 2 pt. piss me off. every high ranked guild on my server queue with that set up.

c) my guilds are really disappointed right now and looks like they even log at schedule time to do warzones anymore. I kind few guilty but I just cant recruit a damn Mara with BM and full aug. I will not even talk about PT.

So basically, we dont feel too much motivated to queue right now.

There would be more people doing RWZ if it was put in with 1.2 but Bioware screwed that up and alot of people that wanted it in 1.2 were not gonna stick around for another couple months for it. My guild on Mind Trick all quit this game because of this.
It was promised in 1.2 and at the last second "oh by the way RWZ was scratched till next patch" good job on losing alot of players that stuck around only for that in 1.2 and quit when it wasnt put in.

that's exactly what i did try to say above....

1.) In order to win you need THE perfect group set up.
2 Operative healers
2-3 pyrotechs
1-2 Assassins
and SMASHers

They all need to have fully augmented WH gear and Voice chat (e.g. Teamspeak)
If you are not one of those classe then you don't get in.
If you play one of the wanted classes, you have to be in the "Inner Circle" of your guild aka. Brown Noses to be in the A-Team. If not - welcome C-Team (C stands for crap)

2.) Although this is pre-season and rating shouldn't matter to anyone people are still way too afraid to queue up for ranked warzones because they might lose some raiting.

3.) Althose groups that kept owning pvp before 1.3 realized they weren't as good and so went back to owning normal pvp with their pre-mades vs. PUGS.