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Galbatorrix

08.06.2012 , 09:03 AM \| #21	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs You?! Why wouldn't you sub just to support this massive super secret space project you so vehemently believe is just around the corner?! I realize I was always "Ra Ra, goooo SWTOR!!", but I'm afraid I never was a big "secret space project" guy. You have me confused on that part. Still, the fact that I was always so pro-SWTOR should tell you something. I was very much a "in for the long haul" person before this announcement. Now, I just don't care anymore.

Galbatorrix

08.06.2012 , 09:09 AM \| #22	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by KeepMe This isn't a flame, it really isn't. But I don't understand, why are or were people pissed that they're going F2P. If You were or are already subbed it doesn't hurt or effect us in anyway. So what if people who never played the game get to play it for free (after they buy it for $15) we're the one's that get the full game with everything F2P people are the one's who need to pay out of pocket to get what we have. I think once it goes F2P and people start finding out that it's gonna cost them more then the the $15 a month to get what the subs have, they will sub. They will never really get to play for free because every bit of content that comes out even if it is minor they have to pay for it. From what I've read there will be a TON of restrictions for F2P and I think it's gonna cost them a small fortune in the long run to get what subs have and will get in the coming months.. Just my thoughts...... First off, the fact that the best part of the game (class stories) are going to be free when we've all had to pay $150+ to play them IS BS. Secondly, that's not even the real reason I don't like this. Sure, the server pop will "look" good, but will it help make GF queues shorter? Nope. Will it make Ops group pop faster? Absolutely not. In fact, it may make these queues even longer due to people dropping their subs to go to the F2P model. All F2P is really going to do for subscribers is make it impossible to do quests. With so many getting to do them for free, you'll be paying to fight free players for nodes and objectives. Which is fine for them... they're playing free of charge. You on the other hand.....

ZORG

08.06.2012 , 09:16 AM \| #23	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by LaVolpex perhaps this is also true.....but currently , there is accountabilty for your actions, and getting banned costs you... once f2p hits...accountability goes out the window and its open season for trolls and griefers... they may be here, but they are behaving (mostly) , wich wont be the case when they can just open a new account to troll with... thats not even taking into acount the farmers and gold / credit spammers Perhaps the account creation software will be changed to look at your computers MAC ADDRESS when creating it. So when you create it it will be unique. Cause now its tied to credit card number. Or perhaps they could use the same tech microsoft uses to setup a machine unique identifier when you activate windows. If you login from another computer it only gives you x amount of hours to play without updating your HOME Machine. If you try to make a new account after being banned from same mac address it will know and not let you...
Fear leads to Anger Anger leads to hate HATE leads to suffering

KeepMe

08.06.2012 , 09:18 AM \| #24	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Galbatorrix First off, the fact that the best part of the game (class stories) are going to be free when we've all had to pay $150+ to play them IS BS. Secondly, that's not even the real reason I don't like this. Sure, the server pop will "look" good, but will it help make GF queues shorter? Nope. Will it make Ops group pop faster? Absolutely not. In fact, it may make these queues even longer due to people dropping their subs to go to the F2P model. All F2P is really going to do for subscribers is make it impossible to do quests. With so many getting to do them for free, you'll be paying to fight free players for nodes and objectives. Which is fine for them... they're playing free of charge. You on the other hand..... I hear what you're saying but wouldn't it be that way if they didn't go F2P and they had like 2-3 million subs like they thought they would. Are the crowds the real reason ppl are pissed. Again they will have to pay and keep paying to get what subs have and will get with their sub fee.

MasterKayote

08.06.2012 , 09:21 AM \| #25	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by BadOrb I don't get why you have unsubbed , F2P doesn't begin until November so you have 3 months to finish off your class quests. You sound like you don't like F2P games so why leave now surely its best to leave when the F2P crowd join ? Cheers, BadOrb. Because like he said, many of us feek the game is going down the drain in November. "Whats the point?" Im on the same boat actually. Canceled my sub and am back to WoW (though surprisingly enjoying it after such a long time away). Looking forward to MoP even. I planned to give it another month while I finish the last 2 stories I hadnt done yet and say farewell to guildies but ive kinda lost almost all motivation and ambition towards this game and am signing on a quarter of the time now.

Galbatorrix

08.06.2012 , 09:25 AM \| #26	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by KeepMe I hear what you're saying but wouldn't it be that way if they didn't go F2P and they had like 2-3 million subs like they thought they would. Are the crowds the real reason ppl are pissed. Again they will have to pay and keep paying to get what subs have and will get with their sub fee. I just think the general attitude is better over all in subbed games. Players all have a long term goal and they typically try to be cordial to others because they know they may see them again down the line. F2P players usually don't have the community in mind while playing. Heck, some will play just to troll. F2P will bring more players in, but if those players won't make group content pop faster, where do subbed players benefit? F2P players will only decrease subbed players enjoyment. Sorry, but I won't be paying for that.

BadOrb

08.06.2012 , 09:34 AM \| #27	Quote
To be honest I lost a lot of interest in SWTOR when the transfers started , I was on 2 servers and they only gave me the choice to move to one. I had 11 characters and couldn't squeeze them into 1. One of my fears was exactly yours OP , I thought too many people fighting for nodes etc also I didn't want to break my two legacy's , In the end I managed to transfer all characters from one server to the new server , so I'm only left with 4 characters on an origin server. That was 10 days ago , I took a 3 day vacation. Came back and saw how the new busy server is actually ok , not many fights over nodes , mobs etc. ( all this and my GF has been missing for a week ). I am now into the game a lot again more than i have been in months. Strange what 3 days off can do. I also believe that in the F2P model you won't have access to a lot of characters , so if you OP or anyone else wanted to finish the class quests on multiple characters then you will have to sub , or have multiple email/accounts ( wouldn't want to re-roll lots of new characters). I am a little worried about what the community will be like when F2P hits but I'm more worried about were my 4 characters will end up. Cheers, BadOrb.
'Ah you think micro transactions are your ally ? The DLC betrays you because it belongs to me , when your home world is monetized , you have my permission to buy'. "Oh goody. Lord Douchebag McFuzzlebunny can now be related to me if he see's my legacy name and decides he likes it." quote from Selvec 09/06/12

Alkiii

08.06.2012 , 09:43 AM \| #28	Quote
This game went F2P faster than any game I've ever seen. What happens if this fails? Will EA pull the plug so quickly? I just can't see devoting anymore time to a game that has a very clouded future. EA has pretty much already pulled the plug due to numbers going down so rapidly. If the F2P model fails, what's their next move? I'm not sticking around to find out ... Protip to EA: Next time you decide to build an MMO, how about TALKING with your player base about the game ... you know, the player base that defines what "MMO" means? Ya ...
�When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep ... not screaming like the passengers in his car.�

AidenCast

08.06.2012 , 10:21 AM \| #29	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by KeepMe This isn't a flame, it really isn't. But I don't understand, why are or were people pissed that they're going F2P. If You were or are already subbed it doesn't hurt or effect us in anyway. So what if people who never played the game get to play it for free (after they buy it for $15) we're the one's that get the full game with everything F2P people are the one's who need to pay out of pocket to get what we have. Every game has said this when they have announced going F2P, People are pissed because their experience in other games tells them that this isn't the case in reality. For every player who thinks the F2P model was a good idea, there is one who thinks it ruined the game. I suspect you can tell fom my signature what I think of F2P from my experience in Lotro which I played from launch to just before RoI.
Cancelled 1/8/12 RIP TOR - Another casualty of F2P

Gungan

08.06.2012 , 10:37 AM \| #30	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Galbatorrix Honestly, this is the same feeling I get with all F2P games. Now, you can either play F2P and be restricted or, you can pay a monthly fee and play with a slew of others that are restricted. Nothing like finding a great tank or healer, asking them if they want to do another FP and them telling you "No, this is the last one I can do for the week". Or something like that. How many ranked matches are you going to get in when half your normal team goes to the F2P model? Sure, F2P will give EA more money in the bank (if other, lesser games are anything to go by), but what's the point now for us players? Honestly, when I try to play Lotro, DND, etc, I always get that same feeling. That "what's the point?" feeling. Now, since the announcement, I get the same feeling with SWTOR already. All drive to get through my Sorcerer's main quest, or level up my Scoundrel healer just disappeared. At this point, I may not even come back for F2P to finish some of the class stories. Just like with the other F2P games, the drawing power of an active, civil community just goes out the window. Heck, I fired up DnD for the first time ever, had some guy try to invite me to his guide about 8 times in a row, kept calling me a noob and I had to put him on ignore. F2P games are troll bait. Good luck to all fighting said trolls while trying to level their characters in the future.... F2P accounts don't have access to ranked PVP.

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